Richard Gordon

I thought I would post this. Initially nothing looks unusual, that is until you see the reverse...

As far as 1914 EK1's go, it would be hard to surpass that one! Congrats on a superb and superior piece.

Here's how it looks on the real thing.

Yes, it is attached to an EK2 that had no ring for the ribbon. As it's only a representation I thought the EK2 would make a good partner for it.

John Another beauty! The similarity to the early Juncker RO/AG is clear to see. Question is: Who actually produced it... Assmann or Juncker OR are there differences that also differenciate the two? Rich

Thanks for sharing those excellent examples! It's not often these days that P/O from Juncker appear for sale. They're getting rarer and rarer. Rich

Gordon I often wonder why none of the original, but altered dies, were used to produce these awards. There certainly were enough firms around that probably still had their original dies. (Speaking of which...where did all those dies go???) However, I think that some were used. Recently a '57 RO/AG badge was sold on German Ebay that was unmistakenly made from Deumer parts. The eagle was identical as was the wreath but you could see that the die had been altered to remove the swaz from the wreath. I also wonder why we don't see more of these? Rich

John That is one amazing early FJ badge! (Heck all those badges shown are superb!) It's fascinating to see the comparison as like many others I too thought the eagle was from Assmann. There is so much mystery surrounding component sharing... Deumer, Juncker & IMME; Assmann & B&NL; etc that I wonder if we'll ever really know who actually produced what or even if another unknown firm produced the parts and sold them to these known companies!? Rich

What is Bowen's book like? Can someone review it? Also, am I correct in thinking there is another book on this subject by Glasser(sp?)? Does anyone have this one? Rich

Personally I believe it to be an excessively over filed Juncker. Looking at the curve in each internal corner, they are not equal in curvature. Rich

Dave I used the pickling process. Took me a long time to figure it out and for reasons of caution not something I'd like to reveal in public. Rich

Chaps Not my collecting interests but an interesting thread nonetheless. It's just amazing that history is so casually discarded. Enough to make you weep. Rich

Guys, I need your help and fast!! After a long search I have finally tracked down the Spanish award 'Cruz de Guerra' which was awarded to Luftwaffe aircrew, etc during the Civil War. Not only that but it is cased as well! Can you tell me if these were awarded post war? Can you tell me, or show me how a war-time example should be, in terms of configuration of hinge/pin and attachment of the front plate? Also, does anyone here have a case that I can compare with? Thanks! Rich

Jim Not surprisingly, you're not the first person to remark about the liner. Yes, it is all original and exhibits very little wear. As for the pads, the earliest have orange/yellow pads, although there could be exception due to field customisation. Later pads are this grey/black. Although a spanner-bolt, this one is later (probably 1941-42 ?) as it has the zinc linerband. The straps are mint, as is the liner, with only minor staining around the brow. I don't think it saw much combat and probably has picked up most of it's wear to the shell from the hands of collectors, being stacked, etc. The picture of the liner is not a great one as taken inside and the compression also takes it toll. If you'd like, I can take a better pic for you. Rich

I've gotten various EK1's and cases both 1914 and 1939 and various medal bars. Here's some helmets, just the Heer. Also found a nice, late M42 no decal and a luft M42 SD with capture papers. Rich

Mint EK1 spangen

Imperial pilot badge

It has been to me... here's a few examples: Mint BSW pilot badge Beautiful early Juncker RO/AG Early scalloped EK2 spangen Juncker marked bomber spangen Deumer RO/AG Round 3 Trio and matching ribbon bar (not shown) more to come...

Jacques I was skeptical at first but as I have a bronze version I was able to compare both side by side, under a loupe. I found the details to be exactly the same right down to the pebbling. I measured the centre disk, length of arms, eagle spans and the V spans at the arm ends and all dimensions matched. That was enough for me and I too believe it to be original. Rich

Couldn't find the pic of the back on my pc so you can use this link to my web-site: Spanish Cross Rich

Unusual and I haven't seen another like it. For info it is the exact dimensions of it's bronze counterpart and the details, eagles and pebbling also matches exactly. Rich

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As requested by Jim, here's some pics of my only FJ helmet.

Jim Tonight I'll post some pictures of the FJ in the Luftwaffe section. Rich