ERIC

How true Rich, how true! Hey, looks like I win - Prize? I'll settle for the top (#1) Deumer badge! ERIC

I for one have not seen nor heard of a GWL UAG - doesn't mean that there isn't one lurking somewhere! Well now, you were going to post it? Nevermind - allow me, together with his brother. These are indeed difficult badges to obtain. (Sorry MM, had to do it!) ERIC

Cheers Jan! Thanks for the pic showing the hinge/pin and catch system on your badge! Proof positive with the marked pin!! ERIC

Juncker/Deumer 'cut' when shown from the reverse.

I agree 100% Rich. Aside from the line in the swaz (Nice shots John!) , the "Deumer" wreaths, when compared to the Juncker wreaths, also have a more pronounced 'cut' found just right of the hakenkreuz (white arrows). You can see this 'cut' much better from the reverse. ERIC

I'll be different - #1 Deumer and #2 Juncker ERIC

OK, here's a stab at this one - Deumer eagle and wreath, mm Juncker? ERIC

Thanks for the confirmation Gordon. ERIC

Reverse:

Hi Guys, Just picked this one up via trade and would like to have a positive ID - is this example a Foerster & Barth? It is not marked anywhere, but I just seem to remember that strange pin. I'm not a Kriegsmarine guy, so don't throw stones if I've screwed up the maker ID! Thanks in advance for the assistance! ERIC

Reverse

Another Fake 'Assmann'

Great job Rich! The display with the 'pokal just looks like it belongs together! You're getting good with that camera my friend! ERIC

As am I! That's a fantastic (and Rare!) Admin/Tec tunic Steve. ERIC

Another fake P/O - this time marked GWL! ERIC

Another great cap Bob! Is that rabbit? ERIC

I would not put too much reliance into the Doehle illustrations shown in his book either - look at the Pilot Badge on page 111 and the P/O Badge on page 113 and you'll see two badges whose eagles are very strange, especially the heads. I have to agree on both accounts Stan. With such a badge as rare as this, and the cost of said badge literally in the thousands, I simply would not feel "safe" with another style other than that shown by John and myself. I can possibly see a later war die for zinkers, so maybe two dies in all, but Christ, how many dies could they possibly have had for such an infrequently issued badge as the Flyers Commemorative? We're not talking Pilot or ROAG Badges here where tens of thousands were issued so multiple dies were eventually needed because of wear and tear. ERIC

Hi J?rgen, Recently, I've seen quality examples such as these go for $600 and up. ERIC

Sweet Juncker 3rd Pattern Bill! The zinc has held its finish extremely well! ERIC

Chris, Both of these styles are identified as original wartime badges? The badges you show have two distinctly different wreaths. Are they buntmetall or zinc examples? Thanks! ERIC

No Stan, I was not aware of the type you've shown here. The only buntmetall style I know of is the following style - Can anyone else post an example such as Stans? I'm always open to learn new things!

Hello Stan, Your badge is definately not what I'm accustomed to seeing when it comes to a buntmetall Juncker Flyers Commemorative Badge. The leafing of the wreath is different as is the fletching of the eagle. The eagles talons are thinner on your example when compared to a known original, and the swastika arms are thicker on your example as well. The hinge, in my eyes, is suspect as well. I'm personally am not comfortable with this one. These are so rare any deviation from the norm is a red flag for me when it comes to these badges. Maybe someone else sees it differently. ERIC

Those are exceptional bullion examples J?rgen! I love them both! Quite possibly by the same maker. A lucky man you are!! ERIC

Hello Fran?ois, A superb grouping! May we see the photo of FW Lampmann? What is in the basket (I assume a presentation)? ERIC

Fantastic photos, Marc! To see the outside of her is awesome, but to get inside and tour it must be outright chilling! It's great to see that they left her untouched -I take it the holes pock marked all around her were received during her capture? ERIC