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For some reason I've not been able to post pictures on this site.

I also have one of these conversions, and find them very interesting. I also have an EK1 where the pin has broken off, and a jeweler has added a loop at the top and converted the catch to a loop as well, for sewing onto the tunic.

Is my eyesight going, or is that not the correct ribbon for the 1866 cross in position 4?

Edit: I see the other one on another thread, great little bar with the KO and RAO.

Nice one, Don, now show us the really nice one with the Zaehringer Loewen.

I doff my hat to your laudible efforts, Rick. In the same spirit I've been trying for some twenty years to track down and reunite the papers and ephemera of my uncle, Major Dr. Albrecht Ochs. Many of his items, stolen in 1945, I've tracked to collections and archives in Germany, with little success so far in retrieval.

Great looking display. I think I'm going to plant one of these EK trees.

Congratulations on another really nice spange, with interesting paperwork. I think I need to go on a Strafausflug to Germany as well.

Wow, that is pricey. My uncle was awarded one of these as a professor at the U of Heidelberg about ten years ago.

Thanks for posting those photos, Stan, that is a really nice example. Any idea who the recipient was?

Hi Stan, Ditto to the above, I'd love to see some closeups of your Ehrenbecher.

Thanks, Mr. Bookkeeper, I think those calculations far exceed my primitive math skills. So I gather that there were no records kept of the award numbers for these. Seems very un-German not to keep a tally.

Good Lord, ein echtes Blechstueck, don't let Stogieman see this...

Gentlemen, Regarding the Army Air Service's Ehrenbecher and the Naval equivalent Ehrenpreis, does anyone have a reasonable estimate as to the numbers of awards of these items? Perhaps Luftmensch can chime in on this one, or Rick? And we won't even talk about the Thor Becher's rarity...

I can also vouch for Barry Turk over at eMedals, having dealt with him several times.

Thanks for the clarification, Sascha, jetzt bin ich ganz durcheinander! Anyway, the restored bar is now complete, except I am looking for a Luftwaffe eagle for the 4 Year Medal and some swords for the ribbon of the Austria medal. Any help would be greatly welcomed.

Bwahahahaha, thanks for the laugh, Rick. That's about the funniest thing I've seen all day.

Some pretty freaky stuff being concocted for evilbay these days. BTW if you get an email from a guy called Richard Gruber, delete it, as he is a scammer trying the "second chance offer" rip-off with medal collectors. I got a message from him because I was bidding on the Robert Moser aviation group last week.

Richtig hervorragende Spange, ich gratuliere.

Hi Pat, I also have one of these Ludwig medals, in silver, but without ribbon. My father-in-law gave it to me years ago, claiming he found it hanging from a wine bottle. I assumed it was modern, and have had it on a key chain ever since. I'd be interested to know the history of this thing too.

Brian, I love your web page, those family items never cease to amaze me. You have a grammatical error in your title. It should read either "Der rote Adler Orden", or "Roter Adler Orden". Sorry to be such a pedant.

Hmmm, that mounting looks a little too "ghetto" for me. I just finished mounting up my uncle's replacement spange, and I'm no Ordensjuwelier, but mine looks way better than that.

I'd like to know why my last post on this thread was removed. Moderators, explanation please.

A bit of remedial Prussian history is in order here. Brandenburg came into its' own under the Great Elector, who finally booted out the Swedes at the Battle of Fehrbellin in 1685. In 1701 Elector Friedrich III was crowned "Koenig in Preussen", or King in Prussia, at Koenigsberg, thus establishing the Hohenzollerns as the dynastic ruling house of Prussia. Prussia was never, ever, an ally of Napoleon. My father is turning in his grave at this suggestion. The country was occupied after the disaster at Jena and Auerstaedt in 1806, and many Prussians, including one of my ancestors, were press-ganged into service in the Grande Armee for the 1812 campaign in Russia. It took the "Voelkerschlacht", or Battle of the Nations at Leipzig to finally turn the tide against the French.

Thanks Thierry. Are you sure the Austria Commemorative goes after the Hindenburg?