Ed_Haynes

Thanks, Yves. Yes, as you know. the memories of relatives are often flawed, and some times intentionally so. If anything, he may have been awarded a decoration, but there was no general-distribution medal for people in his situation. She may well be assuming the British granted awards for the same sorts of servoices the French did. I doubt it would be worth the effort, but you may try checking the online London Gazette, but (1) few foreign awards would be there anyway, (2) is is extremely difficult to use, and (3) based on fragments of a few scraps of hypothetical memory there is very little to go on so as to justify the search.

You say he ". . . would have been a member of British counter-espionage, and, for that reason, would have been awarded a medal after the war." This is far from certain and far from automatic. What do you believe he was awarded? Are you just guessing? As Tony says, the records are not fully released and decorations awarded to foreigners are only occasionally published in the London Gazette in any event. While research may be possible (assuming he was awarded any medals), it will be real research, done in the National Archives in person and not picked up off the internet.

No order of this title. I shall try to determine what you are talking about. I assume someone has made a hash of the name.

Yes, even though the thread was moved to where it does NOT belong it is still a nice and rare picture.

Actually, I think it is where it belongs? And NICE!!

And mine?? Tavtai saikhan! See: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=5787&st=34

Snouts? Tavtai saikhan!

As answers etc. have come over on the Mongolian forum http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=10329 I have been doing updating/expansion there. Sorry (again) for duplication.

Have sent PM. Welcome to the gentlemanly place!

I have received the attached question. Can someone help?

I have received the attached question. Can someone help?

Have not been able to find much of anything professional that is seriously researched work. A lot of fluff, much apologetic work out there. As we have seen before, the amateur opinions differ widely and wildly. I would avoid websites carefully, as they have scant relationship to seriously researched historical work. Maybe, as a starting place (in English): Nigel H. Jones, Hitler's Heralds The Story of the Freikorps, 1918-1923 (1987) Michael G?rtner, "What role did the Freikorps play in the Weimar Republic?" -- http://www.grin.com/en/preview/13985.html J Biedzynski, "The Creation of the Modern German Army: General Walther Reinhardt and the Weimar Republic, 1914-1930," Journal of Military History, 2005

That is certainly possible. But the key is that second MM bar (which I think we can pretty much rule out as other that a Walter-Mittyism) or, more likely, first bar. There were only two of these MM** post-WWI and I think we can rule both of these chaps out? And paired with a DCM (or is it a ISO?)?? Abbot and Tamplin show 177 MM* for WWII and eight post-war (through 1979 -- I checked A&T and found my memory faulty -- no surprise here). I sense the accelerating approach of a brick wall . . .

The same book (p. 380) shows September 1945 awards: Suvorov 1 - Marshal Kh. Choibalsan Kutozov 1 - Lieutenant General Yu. Tsedenbal Suvorov 2 - Lieutenant General Lhhagvasuren ". . . other USSR orders to a further twenty distinguished officers of the MPRA . . ." among them: Major General Damdinkha Major General Erendo Colonel Nyantaisuren I'd LOVE to see THAT ukaz!! Corrections and expansions entered above.

Abbot and Tamplin show no post-WWII MM** awards and, as I recall, only a single MM*. They based their work on a page-by-page readthrough of the London Gazette. That's the kind of careful work that few would even consider these days!

Mongolia confers top honour on Sri Sri Ravi Shankar Bangalore, Aug 24 (IANS) Noted Indian spiritual leader Sri Sri Ravi Shankar was Thursday conferred the Order of the Pole Star, top civilian and military honour of Mongolia, in recognition of the contribution his Art of Living Foundation has made to the nation. President of Mongolia Nambaryn Enkhbayar conferred the award to Sri Sri Ravi Shankar at a function held in the presidential palace in Ulan Bator, the Art of Living Foundation said in a statement. Receiving the award, Ravi Shankar said: "It (the award) is a honour not to a person but to the ancient philosophy and spiritual tradition of India." He is currently on a three-day visit to Mongolia. During the visit, he was welcomed by several top leaders including the president, who has undergone the spiritual programme known as Art of Living. Thousands of people attended his functions during, with more than 10,000 people present at a session on Sudarshan Kriya, a rhythmic breathing and yoga programme developed by Ravi Shankar. "The visit has brought great joy and happiness to the members of the Art of Living family," said a devotee. "By visiting Mongolia, Guruji has honoured the feelings and fulfilled the desires of thousands of Mongolians," she added. Reacting to the overwhelming response of the people of Mongolia, Ravi Shankar said: "The visit has strengthened the long spiritual connection between India and Mongolia." The visit coincides with the 10th anniversary celebration of the Art of Living in Mongolia. Ravi Shankar also held a brief interaction with the Dalai Lama, who is now in Mongolia on a low-key visit. IANS (No relation to the sitar player!) http://mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=l...mp;newsid=32607

That is YOU, mate!! I have no reason to expect anything could be found, but sometimes it is worth asking, even if you anticipate the answer.

Think it'd be worth asking, if "Big M" can't help out.

Nice, even in the absence of his awards! Almost worth getting the research, even if just for the documents?!

Red Banner or Red Banner of Labor? Both are shown in the Kutsenko and Smirnov book.

Pretty! Which clasp on the Turkish War Medal???

Yes -- this is, I think, one more thing that makes the "Polar Star" so interesting! All other awards have close Soviet parallels (but we shouldn't overstate these), but this one doesn't. It was awarded to everyone from Choibalsan to Soviet "friends" in uniform to Mongolian sheep-herders. When/if we get the award rolls, we may be able to say more about the role of this fascinating award and the changes in this role over time.

I know Gerd, but I see the Red Star as closer to the Order of Military Merit [Combat Service] (a uniquely military award awarded, at times, for long service). I think the problem is that there just isn't a Soviet parallel of the "Polar Star"? It is its own thing?

I know the feeling too. But I have never regretted any research expenditure.

Thinking about it more, MAYBE Order of the Badge of Honor? Maybe? It is so much more uncommon though. Does this work for others??