Ed_Haynes

Cross reference: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=5229

Reverse please . . . as I have seen it elsewhere (OMSA) we need it up here too. Very interesting!

Nice one . . . and nice scan! And that is the one variety of this award that I do not have yet! (Multiples of other varieties . . . but!!) Welcome to the new addiction!

All are lovely, Alan, but this one is ESPECIALLY so. Research time!!

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

I suspect that "Lieder" business is one of those mis-facts that has gotten stuck in popular usage. Leader, Leader. Nice badges by the way!

See: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=2735&st=12

Powerful and evocative history, this. When you have time, could we get a close up on the photo and on the text. Maybe some sort of translation can emerge so at least his image and name can be recaptured.

Why is this always spelled "Lieder"?! What has it to do with songs?!? LEADER. Nice ones.

LOVELY!!!

138, right? So noted. Nice one.

War Hero? As a general who overthrew the previous civilian government to take over . . . . If I answered this question, I'd be taken away to j . . . . 1- Nishan-i-Imtiaz (military) 2- Hilal-i-Imtiaz (military) / Sitara-i-Basalat / Sitara-i-Herb 1965 / Sitara-i-Herb 1971 3- Tamgha-i-Jang 1965 (with a MiD, apparently - have not seen him wearing this before) / Tamgha-i-Jang 1971 / Badr Medal / Ten-Year Long Service Medal 4- Twenty-Year Service Medal / Thrty-Year Service Medal / Forty-Year Service Medal / Tamgah-i-Sad Saala Jashan-i-Wiladat Quaid-i-Azam 5- Hijri 1400 Medal / Democracy Medal / Pakistan Resolution Day Golden Jubilee Medal / Pakistan Independence Day Golden Jubilee Medal References: http://faculty.winthrop.edu/haynese/medals...n/pakistan.html http://www.medals.org.uk/pakistan/pakistan.htm http://www.omsa.org/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=581 http://www.medals.lava.pl/pk/pk1.htm

Or of South Carolina from the USA ... oh .....

As almost all of these foreign awards were not published in the London Gazette, they are a bit tricky to trade down. They were, however, discussed -- often at great length -- in the valuable and fascinating proceedings of the Committee on the Award of Orders, Decorations and Medals in Time of War, and these are available in the National Archives (nee PRO) at Kew.

Glad your bags arrived. In this day and age, when we cannot carry anything "pointy" in our carry-on, one always worries! At least we can lock our bags now, with Security Ministry approved locks.

A very useful site: http://www.lancs.ac.uk/staff/hartleyi/acediscussion.htm Ed

I have been trying for some time to sort these cute little things out. Not sure how successful I have been. I have found one marvelous source, though: Igor Victorov-Orlov, "Achievement Medals of the Soviet Union," The Medal Collector 34, 7 (July 1983): 26-28 I encourage all to read the original, but some "high points" from this article follow: 1 August 1939, the 2nd Session of the Supreme Soviet decided to establish an "Exhibition of Achievements in Agriculture" at a site just outside of Moscow (Pushkinskore). In the first (1939) session, 1000 Diplomas of the First Degree were awarded (and included Rubles 10,000 and a car) and 4000 Diplomas of the Second Degree (Rubles 5,000 and a motorcycle). In addition, medals were awarded [and Victorov-Orlov does not make it clear how these related to the diplomas]: 1st class - 32-mm gold, 1000 awarded 2nd class - 26-mm gold, 2000 awarded 3rd class - 32-mm silver, 3000 awarded 4th class - 26-mm silver, 15000 awarded [Does anyone collect these cars and motorcycles as a part of a "complete group"?] The medals were worn on the left breast from a green ribbon. A similar exhibition was held in 1940/41, but had to be cut short on account of the outbreak of the GPW. The exhibitions were not restarted until 1954. On 5 May 1958, the exhibition was renamed at the "All-Union Exhibition of National Economic Achievements" and was expanded beyond agriculture to include industrial production. New medals came with this change in nomenclature: 1st class - gold 2nd class - silver 3rd class - bronze All these second-variety medals were 23-mm and were worn from a magenta/rose-purple ribbon on the right breast. Both issues had both screwback and pinback medals. ======== Observations and questions: 1- A 1939 issue and a 1940/41 issue, pre-war. 2- A continuation of the pre-war medals (undated?) for 1954-57. 3- New medals for 1958-??. Thinking: All-Union Agricultural Exhibition (VDNKh) medals (1939-40): 1- 1st class - 32-mm gold medal: 1.1- 1939 - serial-numbered 1.1.1- screwback 1.1.2- pinback 1.2.- 1940 - serial-numbered 1.2.1- screwback 1.2.2- pinback 2- 2nd class - 26-mm gold medal: 2.1- 1939 - serial-numbered 2.1.1- screwback 2.1.2- pinback 2.2- 1940 - serial-numbered 2.2.1- screwback 2.2.2- pinback 3- 3rd class - 32-mm silver medal: 3.1- 1939 - serial-numbered 3.1.1- screwback 3.1.2- pinback 3.2- 1940 - serial-numbered 3.2.1- screwback 3.2.2- pinback 4- 4th class - 26-mm silver medal: 4.1- 1939 - serial-numbered 4.1.1- screwback 4.1.2- pinback 4.2- 1940 - serial-numbered 4.2.1- screwback 4.2.2- pinback 5 ? 5th (?) class ? 32-mm brass medal (is this only a participant/exhibitor medal, non-prize-winner?) 5.1- 1939 - serial-numbered 5.1.1- screwback 5.1.2- pinback 5.2- 1940 - serial-numbered 5.2.1- screwback 5.2.2- pinback All-Union Agricultural Exhibition (VDNKh) medals (1954-58): 1- 1st class - gold medal, 26 mm undated, unnumbered: 1.1- screwback 1.1.1 ? ?X? on tractor grille 1.1.2 ? no ?X? on tractor grille 1.2- pinback 1.2.1 ? ?X? on tractor grille 1.2.2 ? no ?X? on tractor grille 2- 2nd class - silver medal, 26 mm undated, unnumbered: 2.1- screwback 2.1.1 ? ?X? on tractor grille 2.1.2 ? no ?X? on tractor grille 2.2- pinback 2.2.1 ? ?X? on tractor grille 2.2.2 ? no ?X? on tractor grille 3 ? 3rd (?) class ? brass/bronze medal, 26 mm, undated, unnumbered: 3.1- screwback 3.1.1 ? ?X? on tractor grille 3.1.2 ? no ?X? on tractor grille 3.2- pinback 3.2.1 ? ?X? on tractor grille 3.2.2 ? no ?X? on tractor grille All-Union Exhibition of National Economic Achievements (VDNKh) medal (1958-??): 1- 1st class - 23-mm gold/gilt medal 1.1- screwback 1.2- pinback 2- 2nd class - 23-mm "silver" (copper-nickle) medal 2.1- screwback 3.2- pinback 3- 3rd class - 23-mm bronze/brass medal 3.1- screwback 3.2- pinback The ribbon color on the small VDNKh medal is usually pink (faded red?), although blue ribbons have also been observed. I am quite confused by the ribbons here. Laureate VDNKh - only one variation known at the moment. Help?!?!?!

Welcome to one more active insanity; I shall dig out Lidias' medals and put up more here (they are on "home leave" for a few days yet).

Some monsters will not die, no matter how many stakes of knowledge you drive in?

And there are always those exotic things called "books".

Fair 'nuff, I guess. But "militaria" not the same as ODM. Some of us may not care about bayonets and insigniae. But your call, herr grupperfuhrer -- oops -- tovarich commissar. Gulag, here I come, . . . .

Sorry (inded) to see it shifted to "militaira".

Oh . . . lovely . . . That seems like a nice, early, Polar Star and a high-quality box to match. What serial numbers? Dates? Details?!

My guess: To quote Lord Carnavon as he first peeped into King Tut's tomb: "Things, wonderful things". What do I win?

Not sure this belongs (but, then, neither does the Order of the Vajra). Also this is not in hand yet, but it is on its way to come live with me. I wanted to post a preliminary picture. Inner Mongolia - Military Merit Decoration Created approximately 20 March 1938 By Prince Teh Wang (Temujin) as the main military merit award (roughtly comparable to the Japanese Order of the Golden Kite) of the puppet "free" government of Inner Mongolia established by the Japanese in those parts of Mongolia under their occupation (Suiyan, Chahar, and Ninghsia) after their occupation of Manchuria/Manchuguo. It would SEEM that this award was issued in three classes: 1- 48 mm, silver-gilt, enameled red (as shown below, and soon my guest) 2- 42 mm silver-gilt, enameled blue 3- 38 mm, silver, enameled blue And, yes, it is Chengiz Khan in the centre. More images when in hand. It is cased. References: Peterson, Orders and Medals of Japan, 3rd ed., p. 171.