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Gentlemen, I have recently received this Red Cross. I think it is an original but would like others opinions. It is the first such cross i have owned and have never seen another in hand or in a book. I believe it to be a 2nd class decoration. Thank you Pierce

I would say it is most likely an Oldenburg FA Cross 2nd Class. The stripes do not match a St. Michael Order ribbon. Hard to tell how many years the long service ribbon represents.... Kind regards Pierce

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Gentlemen, I was thinking of purchasing this Italian neck order. Compared to others i have seen it looks very "shiney" but that could be the camera? I have never had one before nor held one in my hand. These are the only pictures i have. It comes in a green case. -What period is this one? -Is it a good one? Thank you for the help. Kind regards Pierce

What is the 5th ribbon supposed to represent? Saxony Albrecht's Order? Ostvolk Award? Devices look good, but as Joe says they are back to front! Kind regards Pierce

A great group Claudio! Best regards Pierce

And i see she is not accepting Paypal payment for it either!!

It would not be a police serive medal. This time served as a police officer went towards his total time serving his country. He was transferred to the Army and would have taken his time with him. I have a similar group to a Wehrmacht General Major who was a police officer in the 1920s....he had the 25year Wehrmacht Cross also. Kind regards Pierce

Great order.....these are excellent pictures, i can see every detail! Kind regards Pierce

Hi Heiko, It looks like a brown/orange colour...but i had assumed it was just faded. What are your thoughts? Is there a ribbon like this colour that is shown above? Kind regards Pierce

Thank you...this indeed is a possibility and one i had not considered. I assumed it was Waldeck as there is another Waldeck order on the bar. Kind regards Pierce

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I received this ribbon bar in the post a few days ago and have only gotten around to researching the ribbons on it that i did not know. I am a little unsure if the Waldeck ribbons represent medals or orders. I hope someone can help. -Prussian War Aid Cross -Prussian Red Cross Medal 2nd Class -Prussian Red Cross Medal 3rd Class -Waldeck Freidrich Bathildis Order -Honour Cross w/o swords -Red Cross Decoration (maybe from Weimar?) -Waldeck Merit Order/Medal It was only with the help of this website could i identify ribbon No.4. http://www.ordensmuseum.de/adl/bander.htm I have never seen it before on a ribbon bar and this is what drew me to it in the first place. If anyone has a picture of this order please post it if possible. The order of precedence to me is odd...i would have expected the other Waldeck ribbon at the end of the bar to be higher up on the bar. I though it may have been placed down there as it was a non-combatant award...but then so are most of the other awards. I then thought it was placed there as a "foreign German" award...i.e. not from the owners State/Province...but then the other Waldeck ribbon is on the middle of the bar... I would like to hear others opinion on this. Kind regards Pierce

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Mike, It was I who started a thread on these bars. The 2-place is genuine. The others for me are questionable. Here are the points i opened the thread with: In general what i do not like is the mounting style and the thick brown thread used (which is very clear to be seen on the 4-place bar).....looks just like the work of the famed Austrian faker... The combination of the 3-place i have never heard tell of...the last medal i have seen, but never on a German bar...could be possible but could be another sign of the Austrian....he likes to use exotic foreign awards on his medal bars!! Not crazy about the pin and catch on the reverse either. The 4-place i definately do not like the pin and catch on the reverse nor the glued on makers label... And i just wouldn't be too sure of the originality of some of the medals on there either! The owner has since replied and has stated that all medals are original. I had only questioned the originality of some of the medals on the 4-place. Kind regards Pierce

Thank you Josef. Pierce

I hope you kept a proof of posting or sent it via registered means? Did he ask you to return it to him? Did you pay him via paypal? Keep us posted. Any problems let ud know. Kind regards Pierce

Timo, Lovely piece, congrats! As for the 4th ribbon...not sure if any of these fit this combination but they do fit the ribbon: -Baden Landwehr Service Decoration (1912) -Brunswick Order of Henry the Lion -Brunswick Cross of Merit (1879) -Lippe Medal of Merit (1832) Kind regards Pierce

My thanks to both Ian and Josef for identifying the last 2 ribbons. Josef, thank you for the brief history and the link on the Vets Organisation. The information you have provided leads me to believe that this ribbon bar was constructed between 1934 and 1938 when the Styrian Organisation was banned in Austria. If anyone has pictures of these medals i would love to see them. Kind regards Pierce