Solomon

Ah, nice war honor medal...on a bow-style NC-ribbon for women. I have the same medal with the same bow-style ribbon for combatants (extreme rare!). It?s possible that this award goes the NC-IC, but not on a bow for women The combination NC-iron cross and NC-war merit cross Lippe-Detmold is a quite common and possible combination. The problem with this offer is the seller and his "very special" medalbars... By the way the seller gives no guarantee for the combination of awards on his medalbars... he only guarantees that the awards and ribbons are original Please think about this carefully... Best regards Solomon

Hmmm...bid on your own risk, but I as Lippe-expert, who is always interested in such rare NC-combinations, won?t buy this stuff under any circumstances. Just my opinion... Best regards Solomon

Oooops, I?m sorry that I didn`t answer months ago You are not right...these envelopes belong to the early crosses...SCHWARK mentioned these envelopes in his book, too. Inside was the rest of the paper, in which the shown cross was wrapped. So...watch out for these little envelopes. Best regards Solomon

...and the other site...

...and the original document...

Oooops, I just saw that I haven?t showed one document yet... This document is probabely the key for the answer, why Leopold IV. has been asked about the marriage. This document is for the parents of "my" Prince. It?s from 1916 and with this document his father and mother became the title "Durchlaucht". More important is, that his parents and their children ("Agnate") were raised to heir apparent ("Thronfolger") Weird rulls of aristrocracy...

...and a scan of the change of 1918 (the other paragraphs I didn?t scan). This change is quite important for my award-document Only the members of the (ruling) house of Lippe-Biesterfeld were allowed to wear the HO 1st class as "Grosskreuz" at the "Cordon" (=ribbon). Members of the house of Lippe-Weissenfeld had to wear the "normal" 1st class. It?s really interesting that the statutes were changed short before the resignment of Leopold IV. (von Lippe-Biesterfeld) Hope you enjoy it like me Best regards Solomon

...and the other thing were the statutes for the house-order Lippe-Detmold, in their latest form of November, 9th 1918. The cover...

Hi gents, last week I got something from this group The first one is the document in which Leopold IV. (again signed by himself) allowed the marriage of the Prince, mentioned in the awarding document I showed you, with a Princess. (Leopold IV. was asked for his "Konsens" = consent...) It?s from 1928...quite interesting, that he was still asked

Hi Micha, hehe, congratulation! Although I bid also on this fine little cross, I?m happy you got it at least But the next one is reserved for me... Greetings Solomon

@ Rick Thanks for the link, I found the recipient easily But it?s quite interesting that he wasn?t a kid when he awarded the honor cross (older than 21 years...) ...I?ve no idea why, he got it so "late". @ Chris The answer is yes and no It?s the only document for this person and I?m quite sure he didn?t awarded many more (or even one more order). But I have also the document, also signed by Leopold IV., for his parents...becoming the title of "Durchlaucht" and a typewritter-written copy of it. It?s from time of WW1 and detail I also showed, is from this document. Greetings Solomon

And there is another interesting detail on that document at its top: The word "regierender" (rouling) is missing. I scanned another document belonging to the shown one, which is from 1916...before his resignment. It?s quite interesting and a proof that special award-documents existed after 1918... Solomon

Hi gents, here is a new highlight in my collection (no, it?s not christmas yet ): It?s a original awarding document for honor cross of the house-order of Lippe-Detmold 1st class This class was awarded 127 times between 1890 and 1918 as 1st class, and 10 times between 1905-1918 as "Grosskreuz" (Schwark). But this document is a very special one... The decorated person was a prince, who awarded it in June 1931 ...long after Leopold IV. of Lippe-Detmold resigned !!!! I?ve no idea, who many 1st classes were awarded after 1918, because I haven?t any files in the archive of Detmold about that yet. But I guess a number between 1-15 (without any proof)... I hope you like it and I?m interested in your opinions Best regards Solomon

...and...to make it complete: Awarding document for the silver merit medal (This one is very rare, because Leopold IV. of Lippe-Detmold signed it himself...quite uncommon). Best regards Solomon

Here is a picture of the silver merit medal Lippe-Detmold. The ribbon is an original one.

This won?t be easy...my guess: Adler Diplomat or Opel Olympia Greetings Solomon

Here is again something nice from Detmold: Denkm?nze auf den Einzug des Graf-Regenten Ernst 1897 (complete name, I don?t know the correct translation) The ribbon is a new one, but the colours are correct. It was awarded 1023 times... Greetings Solomon

......?????hm....The cross you showed us, is from Lippe-Detmold not from Schaumburg-Lippe -that?s the difference Greetings Solomon

You are right...max. 13 awards. Greetings Solomon

and revers...

Hello Gents, I proudly present my new purchase...today it arrived: Schaumburg-Lippe Order for art and science 1st class (2nd model) The cross was spent by Prince Stefan Albrecht Georg 1899. My cross is the 2nd model (partially enameled and gilden silver), awarded between 1914-1918. The ribbon (red-golden) is the original one. I?m quite sure the maker was Carl B?sch, Hannover...because of the crown-design... There were only about 14 awards of this type (35 award of the 1st class total) Although there is only a small number of possible owners, I don?t have a name Here is again the link to my 2nd class of this award to compare ->LINK Hope you enjoy it...I?m quite sure that Rick does it And....many thanks go to the member "Jacky", who helped me a lot, giving this award a new home. Greetings Solomon

Yes, I also won?t buy it... There is a certain number of pinback-crosses of the war merit cross Lippe-Detmold...but there is a small problem: This (often called "1st class") cross was never spent So it?s a question of believing if these crosses are prototypes.... IMO the shown cross is a fake (also because of its wrong size). Solomon

WOW! Very nice ribbonbar and a unique one, too Rick did the work already, it?s from Georg Epstein... BUT...there is something special, I wrote on August Sch?fer?s ribbonbar! Epstein wasn?t allowed to wear the ribbon of the Leopoldorden single without the decoration (-> see statutes). Very interesting, that he did it...maybe this is the hint for the missing crown on the ribbon. Congrats! Now I?m a bit jealous Solomon

Uuups...I forgot it... But I promise that this group is in good hands... By the way, I tried to rescue the destroyed rare medalbar on ebay and placed bits on all medals...but I had no chance Now I only got a single medal (FAM Saxony), in which I?m not really interested The other medals are gone with the wind... Solomon

Wow...another very rare Detmold-Schaumburg union Because of the former hostility between these two principalities, this bar is much rarer that you can imagine... If you need space in your rooms, I have always a place for it I don?t own a NC-war merit cross LD on a medalbar (yet). Solomon