Kev in Deva

Hallo Warthog, please use the "add reply" feature, instead of opening a new thread for each picture. Hopefully one of the kind moderators will move all your pictures into one thread. Kevin in Deva. :beer:

As a matter of interest were Administrative troops eligible for the Belgian Victory Medal?? or was it only for issue to combat troops and service in the rear areas (exp: medics, doctors, supply, etc..etc..) Kevin in Deva. :cheers:

Hallo Warthog, with regards where to look, your sis should ask the locals about the location of the "Floh-makt", alternatively they can be found advertised in the local newspaper in the small-adds section, or if you acquire the monthly magazine from the newsagents at the train station / airport in Germany, called "Trodler & Sammelen" its lists the Floh-makts by postcode for the entire of Germany. But then you have to look at all the tables to try and spot something, (hopefully not a fake item!!) as most markets are not specifically for militaria items. Kevin in Deva,

Hallo Gordon My tuppence worth, and I stand open for correction. K.O.S.B. = Kings Own Scottish Borderer's. R.A.M.C. = Royal Army Medical Corp (Rob All My Comrades ). R.E. = Royal Engineers. Kevin in Deva.

Hallo pegase001 I my opinion its unofficial, and could be used to identify the users country of origin home unit, either that or its been added as "bling-bling" to make it look more interesting to a collector. Kevin in Deva (ex-U.N.I.F.I.L.)

The Romanian "Jeep" is made by the firm ARO, there is not much difference with the civil model in comparison to the military. I suppose its Romanian equivalent to the "Land Rover" and is very popular with the off-road 4X4 clubs here. Kevin in Deva. :beer:

Gentlemen Many thanks for your input with regards this item, much appreciated. Ricky, nice bars Kevin in Deva. :beer:

No, mainly the fact that there was a Defence Medal and a War Medal 1939-45 on the same bar. Doc, the last one is a Auxiliary Air-force Long Service and Good Conduct Ribbon. Kevin in Deva.

Rear of the bar / strip there are no metal parts. seems to be formed around a thin strip of card. Kevin in Deva. :beer:

Hallo Gents, looking through some of my British items I have this one and it occurred to me it has a strange combination, is it good? Kevin in Deva.

Is there a ranting Hitler model on the market? Kevin in Deva.

Hallo James Politicians telling the military what to do now there's a thought And the end result of the Brass looking into it was what? Did they specify a "Blue on Blue" Award?? Thanks for the source of the statistics. Kevin in Deva

Hallo James, I am sure there is a need for a Wound Medal or Wound Insignia and one may even be created. I am just as sure there will never be a Wound Medal or Insignia denoting that an Allied Country was guilty of the wounding. Are you implying that there were less "Blue on Blues" in W.W.1 and W.W.2 and Other Campaigns? Very hard to say or compare as these are ongoing current conflicts. Mis-identification occur in war, as sad as it is, it happens and Coalition troops have made mistakes with regards what were perceived to be "enemy" threats, resulting in civilian casualties, even all the more common when fighting in such a mobile, fluid environment of modern warfare. You implication that "Blue on Blue" casualties are higher but, being disguised is pointless without any substantial evidence, as is putting the blame on the Americans, the soldiers on the ground are aware that such incidents can happen, and seem to accept it as part of the job. But, to suggest their is a need for a creation of a specific Medal or Insignia to point the "finger of blame." is in my honest opinion baseless. I have never seen or read of any serving member, veteran, of the British Forces stating this case, or any member of an Association or political group calling for such an item. And I have never heard of any country, anywhere, calling for such an item, to be added to their inventory of insignia or decorations. So we will have to agree to disagree on this one. Cordially, Kevin in Deva.

Sorry James, but I totally disagree, the purpose of an wound medal is to identify the soldier as being wounded, it has not the purpose to point the finger of blame. Wound and no medal = civil accident, work related accident, sports accident. The way the Civil Service work with regards cost, would also ensure it will never happen as there is just not enough blue on blue incidents to warrant it. If the soldiers wounds are so severe they would be medically discharged. Kevin in Deva. :beer:

Hallo James While "Blue on Blue" situations do occur, and thankfully are rare, I find the above comment not to have been carefully too well thought out. Point 1: Can you imagine a Department of Defence / War Office authorizing for wear the issue of a medal or insignia for a tragic mistake made by their Armed Forces? If such event was to occur in training or at home, statistics show its a very low number per Anum, so the cost of producing the "award" in such low numbers would no doubt be a factor against it. If the wounded service member, through his or her negligence was the cause of the accident would they be entitled to receive it? If no, then this still lowers the statistics per anum of those eligible. Would military personnel involved on a military exercise who were involved in a non-weapons related accident be eligible for the award, (i.e. vehicles over turn, crashes occur, etc..etc..) if so the n a different ribbon to denote wound (injuries) from accident on exercise or home service. Point 2: We have seen in modern times soldiers of various nations joined together on campaigns, including service with the United Nations, would such and injury / wound received while in U.N. service (basicaly Peace-keeping) be considered for the award, particularly if it was caused by members of another countries military? With some of the tragic occurrences in Iraq, Afghanistan etc..etc.. do you really think it would foster good relations between the various military personnel if soldiers were sporting a: "I was wounded by ____________ (fill in blank country as applicable) Medal? Personally I think not. Also, would there be a retro award of the medal to past serving members of the military going back to, lets say WW2, Korea, Malaysia, Vietnam, Aden for example. "Blue on Blue" accidents, especially in the "Fog of War" are part and parcel of the game played by the "Sons of Mars". Kevin in Deva. :beer:

:rolleyes: "Red, Red, Ribbon all of de time make me wanna whine" Sincere apologies to UB 40. But look on the bright side, Christmas tree decorations I just wonder how many tons of this stuff is heading world wide post Olympicoitus Kevin in Deva :beer:

Don't forget the U.N.E.F. Medal Megan

Hallo James, not to take it too far of topic but, the above comment which I highlighted in bold, I presume is in connection with the the British Armed Forces? When soldiers serve with the United Nations, they are representing their country, which has seconded them for Peace-Keeping / Peace Enforcing duties with the United Nations. In reality the United Nations Medals are virtually the same and only the ribbon changes. There are still some countries that do not carry a large range of medals except Service Medals for their soldiers (Rep. of Ireland for one) so the addition of a U.N. service medal for services rendered is very welcome. Also the fact that not all countries are in N.A.T.O. (I believe their has been a small contribution to the now defunct K.F.O.R. from Ireland and with I.S.A.F. (approx 7 members of the Irish Defence Forces). I do not know the current status with regards, Irish regulations, as if they are allowed to wear the medals for the service on their dress uniforms. Kevin in Deva :beer:

Hallo Dante Is the correct interpretation of the name ( Verdienstkreuz f?r Kriegshilfe 1916 - 1924) not War Service Help Cross?? This Cross I believe was conferred on civilians as well. Kevin in Deva

3. Irish Commemorative Medal for U.N. Service:- Actual Size:- 33mm in width. Green: 5mm, White: 5mm, Orange: 5mm, Blue: 3mm, Orange: 5mm, White: 5mm, Green: 5mm. Awarded to all Irish Defence Force Personnel, past and present, including deceased members, who have served at least 1 mission with the United Nations in their Irish military service. Kevin in Deva. :beer:

Hallo Gents, I obtained these while in Ireland on holiday:- Permanent Irish Defence Force Ribbons:- 1. 10 Years Service Medal Ribbon. Actual size:- 33mm in width. Only used on the 10 year Service Medal. 2. 15 Year Service Medal ribbon. Actual Size:- 33mm in width. Approximate Stripe Size:- Blue: 13,5mm, Yellow: 7mm, Blue 13,5mm. This ribbon with the addition of a bar replaces the blue 10 year ribbon on the Service Medal. For some strange reason the Republic of Ireland's Regular Army do not have any way of showing that a soldier, sailor, airman / airwoman has more service than 15 years. However the Irish Reserve Defence Forces do have a "21" year Bar to add to their medal ribbon. Kevin in Deva.

Careful or the moral police could be on your case Kevin in Deva :beer:

Hallo Gordon, I think you have hit the nail on the head, I too believe these to be unofficial mementos of service in U.N.E.F. possibly Key chains / Key rings. In most areas the UN operate in small cottage industry's spring up selling such items as souvenirs to the troops involved on the missions. Kevin in Deva.

Dear Noor, Again it pays to look for advice and opinions before spending your cash. There are more than enough people in our forum willing to offer help and advice if asked BEFORE you decide to spend. It the long run it will save you money. Kevin in Deva. :beer:

Hallo Gents, were fiber helmets not also allowed for any officer who had suffered head wounds? Did Oberst Horst von Wolff. suffer any such wounds in service (if any) in WW1? Kevin in Deva :beer: