medalnet Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 Is somebody able to identify the recipient:[attachmentid=48988]Prussia: Iron Cross 1914Prussia: Red Eagle Order 3rd class with swords and bowPrussia: Red Eagle OrderIII.Reich: Hindenburg CrossPrussia: Long Service Cross for officers 25 yearsPrussia: Centenial medalBavaria: Military Merit Order 3rd class with crown and swordsBavaria: Military Merit Order 4th class with crown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 Maybe on the RAO4/BMVO4mKr/BMVO3XmKr combination, but it will take a LOT of looking at every single Oberstleutnant and Oberst on the BMVO3XmKr list...and still will come up short on those weird wartime rear area/retiree type Red Eagles like that with bow the Milit?r Wochenblatt just did not bother listing accurately!I suspect he will be a zD or recalled aD type rather than an active duty staff officer, because there are no OTHER wartime awards.I have to go take my heart attack medication now... I'm short of breath after gazing enraptured on THIS beauty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 I have never seen so many trinkets and danglies on a German ribbon bar!! Very interesting indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 Greetings Andreas. Very special bar.... you know who is already, don't you??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medalnet Posted August 8, 2006 Author Share Posted August 8, 2006 Greetings Andreas. Very special bar.... you know who is already, don't you???I do actually don't know. Still hopeing for help. The regular Ranklists I have did not bring up the candiate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd D Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 Andreas,I can only reduce the list of possible recipients of this medalbar:Oberst Aquirin BrassartOberst Ernst von ChrismarOberst Karl KraemerOberstlt von MassowBernd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webr55 Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 Andreas,I can only reduce the list of possible recipients of this medalbar:Oberst Aquirin BrassartOberst Ernst von ChrismarOberst Karl KraemerOberstlt von MassowBerndOf those, I think it could only be Brassart. Chrismar and Kraemer did not get a BMVO3XKr, and the v. Massow who did was an iG type with many other awards.Oberst Brassart was director of the fireworks lab in Spandau. I'm not sure about his first name (Otto Quinn? Quirin? Aquirin?). Can't find any wartime Prussian awards in the MilWochenblatt. But he got the BMVO3XKr on 28.4.1916 and retired as Generalmajor aD. And he was alive in 1935: born 1860, died 1944.Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd D Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 Of those, I think it could only be Brassart. Chrismar and Kraemer did not get a BMVO3XKr, and the v. Massow who did was an iG type with many other awards.Sorry, but Chrismar received his 3. class with crown and swords 18 Oct 1917 and Kraemer 29 Apr 1917.Bernd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webr55 Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 Sorry, but Chrismar received his 3. class with crown and swords 18 Oct 1917 and Kraemer 29 Apr 1917.BerndMay I ask where that information comes from? 'Cause I cannot find them in the lists published by Autengruber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd D Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 I own a little bit more detailed list about this decoration. Roth stated himself that his list is not complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruelle Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 Hi, In the RL 1914, Oberst Brassart has got the following medalsPRAO4, PKO3, BMVO4 mit Krone, DA, Centenar medal.Wartime award : BMVO3X mit KroneCan't find the dat eof the RAO3 mit X and bow.That's all I findRegardsChristophe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webr55 Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 Anyway, Ernst v. Chrismar got the Baden Karl Friedrich Order on 25.8.1915. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willi Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 Brassart got the BMVO crown X April 28th. 1916. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medalnet Posted September 24, 2006 Author Share Posted September 24, 2006 and the answer is:Oberst z.D. Karl Kraemer.MVO 4a am 18. Januar 1913 in Metz als Major.MVO 3a X Sv am 29. April 1917 als Oberst.RAO 3 Schl Schw am 14. September 1918. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 That's very good! I hate it when it takes 15 to 21 years to finally get an identification! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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