Got Württemberg?

[Steve Russell]

Nothing spectacular but a nice representation of what a fighting Wurttemburger might have earned. And I second Don's welcome Steven. Good to see you over here as well. Steve

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[IMPERIAL QUEST]

Hi Steve,

Super grouping, and thanks...this is my new permanent residence.

Edited October 31, 2006 by IMPERIAL QUEST

[Wild Card]

Gentlemen,

I have posted this medal before; but perhaps some of our newer members have not seen it.

Best wishes,

Wild Card

[Wild Card]

Reverse.

[joe campbell]

wild card-

my thanks for your wonderful pieces!

in the group of three, two were brass/bronze,

one was steel/lead. just wartime metal supply??

(referring to post #13)

very mice!

joe

Edited November 1, 2006 by joe campbell

[Wild Card]

Thank you Joe.

With regard to your question addressing the metals (materials) used, I am not completely clear on this matter myself. As near as I can determine, Hessenthal/Schreiber says that all examples should be dark oxidized copper bronze. At the same time, Nimmergut says that the pin back should be bronze, the cross with swords should be dark bronze and the two classes without swords should be light bronze. So.... I am inclined that these guidelines were expanded due to as you so well put it - ?just wartime metal supply?.

As I seem to recall, we see similar variations with the Bavarian third class MVK?s, don?t we? Further opinions and information on this subject would be most welcome.

Best wishes,

Wild Card

[Wild Card]

Gentlemen,

Before this thread fades away, I think that it deserves examples of the various orders of W?rttemberg. So I?ll do my best to help fill some gaps.

First we have the knight?s cross of both the Civil Merit Order and the Military Merit Order, from 1806. That?s correct, same badge for two separate orders, the difference being in the suspension ribbon. More on this in a moment.

[Wild Card]

The reverse is rather interesting.

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Next is the more familiar Order of the Wurttemberg Crown which replaced the Civil Merit Order (above) in 1818. Here is a knights second class cross with swords.

[Wild Card]

A knight?s cross to the Order of Military Merit also from 1818 on .

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Lastly, a knight first class with swords to the Friedrich Order.

[Stogieman]

Thanks WC, nice presentation of some rarer orders!!

[Tom Y]

The low end of the Friedrichs Orden

[Tom Y]

See what a polishing cloth and a case of OCD can do

This guz must have been really proud of his service and paraded a lot.

Note the brass half-round wire soldered to the ends of the bar to protect the ribbons and keep them in place.

[pinpon590]

Hello !

Some very classic, but I like it !!

Charlote's cross...

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Wilhelm's cross, for non combattant...

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Wilhelm's cross with swords...

[pinpon590]

2nd class knight cross of Frederic Order...

[pinpon590]

Gold Bravery medal, post war issued, in silver golded (stamped "800" on the ring)

[pinpon590]

And finaly, a small classic bar :

1/ Iron cross 2nd class, on combattant ribbon

2/ Silver bravery medal

3/ Honor cross 1914/18

[pinpon590]

The reason that there are two examples without swords and one with is evident when we compare the reverses. The crosses with swords have the inscription "kriegs verdienst" on the reverse while the crosses without swords could be awarded with or without the inscription.

I'd like to elaborate this answer :

According to Dr Kliethmann

The cross with swords is awarded for combattant.

The cross without swords and with "Kriegsverdienst" inscription on back side is the cross for "Verdienste im Kriege in der Heimat" (War merit toward homeland)

The cross without swords and without any inscription on the back side is known as cross "f?r sonstige Verdienste " (for general merit)

[Scott Powell]

This is one of my particular favourites

[Scott Powell]

i am fond of this one as well

[dond]

I forgot about this one.

[dond]

And the reverse for those who want to see it.