Dave Danner Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Here is another recommendation list, from Sturm-Bataillon 4, though with a more generic Begründung. I don't know which Freiherr v. Hammerstein signed it. Sturm-Btl. 4 was a Garde unit, so maybe Hptm.d.R. Adolf Frhr. v. Hammerstein-Loxten from the Reserve of the Garde-Jäger-Bataillon, although he might have been a Maj.d.R. by 1917. You can also see by the penciled-in notation "Höchste Genehmigung vom 18. Juli 1917" that it took two months from recommendation to approval. I am not sure how typical this is, but it usually took longer than it would for an Iron Cross, since once the recommendation was received, the Staatsministerium would then have to contact the local magistrate to confirm the citizenship and residency of the proposed awardee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted December 9, 2015 Author Share Posted December 9, 2015 Very interesting to see how the system worked, someone in the battalion must have kept track of the different origins.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Danner Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 For the most part, all award recommendations had to follow this procedure. Even Prinz Aribert, as a commander in the field, had to have his recommendations sent back to Dessau. Once he became Prinzregent in September 1918, though, he made a number of awards on his own authority. Duke Friedrich made a bunch of immediate awards when he visited the front, but his Flügeladjutant had to scramble to get the correct information so everything could be properly documented. For the battalion, I would assume it was the adjutant or whoever was in charge of maintaining the Kriegsrangliste/Kriegsstammrolle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Here is a postcard from Sturmbataillon Nr.4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolewts58 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 I just picked up a Militärpass and Soldbuch to a Sturm-Soldat. He served in the Sturm Abteilung der 207 ID and then in the Sturm Kompagnie der 89 Reserve Infanterie-Brigade. He also served in a Freikorps Grenzschutz Ost company and won the EKI, II and Grenzschutz Ost Deutsch-Ritterkreuz. Here is the front page of his Soldbuch. I will post both pieces when I get them. Does anyone have any information on these two Sturm units? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Hello! Here is a nice photo of a Sturmbataillon with an arm-patch (crosses hand-grenades) Any idea which Sturmbataillon this could be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 No-one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 I am guessing from a Sturm Abteilung of some sort, not a S.B.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) Hello Chris! Divisional SB didn´t have leather-patches. Only official SBs had those patches. Edited March 17, 2018 by The Prussian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 And another stamp: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 And two other ones... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 Hello Chris! Divisional SB didn´t have leather-patches. Only official SBs had those patches. Hi, I have seen regular infantry wearing the leather patches, I used to think automatically "Sturm bataillon!" but in retrospect there were lots of guys with leather on their knees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Hi Chris! The "Gebirgsstiefelhose" was worn by official SBs and troops who served in the mountains like Alenkorps, Karpathenkorps and units in the Carpathians, Rumania and Macedonia, since january 1918 as well as 9th army, 11th army, 14th army, Armee Armee-Abt. A, B and Scholtz. Then Ul.Rgt.21, Ldw.Rgt. 38, 40 and 438, a few Landsturm-Bataillons Source: Kraus vol. I, page 245/246 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 The 21th regiment of Uhlans completed the use of Gebirgsstiefelhose with a lancer cap with neck curtain, and retained the Ulanka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 Hi Chris! The "Gebirgsstiefelhose" was worn by official SBs and troops who served in the mountains like Alenkorps, Karpathenkorps and units in the Carpathians, Rumania and Macedonia, since january 1918 as well as 9th army, 11th army, 14th army, Armee Armee-Abt. A, B and Scholtz. Then Ul.Rgt.21, Ldw.Rgt. 38, 40 and 438, a few Landsturm-Bataillons Source: Kraus vol. I, page 245/246 Indeed, so you have to factor in a lot of Bavarian Infantry in the Vogesen z.B. as well as divisional sturm Units in the Areas of the Units above etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 That´s absolutely right, mate! I just wanted to make clear, that divisional stormtroopers didn´t wear that trousers at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted May 5, 2018 Author Share Posted May 5, 2018 I just received this.... It is the course plan for the Sturm course run by Sturnbataillon Nr 7 in July 1917, taking part was a Leutnant from RIT48 and this was his copy of the outline of the course.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Great document, Chris! What´s RIT48? Do you mean RIR48? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted May 5, 2018 Author Share Posted May 5, 2018 Sorry, yup RIR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted June 9, 2018 Author Share Posted June 9, 2018 I accidently picked up some more Sturm related cards....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Nice "accident"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted June 12, 2018 Author Share Posted June 12, 2018 On 10/06/2018 at 21:10, Chip said: Nice "accident"! I put in about 50 low bids at a postcard auction house... expecting to get 2-3 cards... and ended up getting 28! The wife was not happy...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Liontas Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) Rofl We ought to start a topic on: ” how to recover with your wife” thread. I’m in the doghouse as well Grats in the cards though Chris! Edited June 13, 2018 by Chris Liontas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dond Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Chris lives in the dog house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted June 15, 2018 Author Share Posted June 15, 2018 14 hours ago, dond said: Chris lives in the dog house. True dat..... fighting to preserve history is a thankless task!! ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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