RichieC Posted March 2, 2007 Posted March 2, 2007 Air Force Private - circa 1948Do I have his ORS and Guards Badge reversed?
RichieC Posted March 2, 2007 Posted March 2, 2007 (edited) Captain First Rank of Coastal Artillery. Edited March 2, 2007 by RichieC
Ed_Haynes Posted March 2, 2007 Posted March 2, 2007 Interesting. Are the medals legitimate, authentic, and original, or are they cosmetic (fraudulent) add-ons unrelated to the tunics??
RichieC Posted March 2, 2007 Posted March 2, 2007 (edited) Interesting. Are the medals legitimate, authentic, and original, or are they cosmetic (fraudulent) add-ons unrelated to the tunics??I can not speak for Nack, but in my case, only the Lenin shown here is a reproduction. The remainder are authentic. I affixed them using my tastes and from my observations, as I own hundreds of period photos. I only wanted to fill holes from previous decorations (only unknown provenance "knows" what they were from) in the fabric and add some colour to these guys...I am mainly into uniform items and kit, and usually aquire orders and medals only to adorn my uniform displays. Therefore, for the price I would need to pay, for example, seven hundred fifty bucks plus (I assume that is the going rate as I am typing this) for one Lenin, I can own two of these gorgeous parade uniforms.I also have recently aquired a few other repros of higher orders and second award Red Banners that will serve the same purpose. I have not yet decided on what I will use them on as of yet...However, it would be a nice thing, really, to be a wealthy man, as I would not think twice about using authentic examples of the high end ODMs to decorate my men...Here on Earth, finding a legitimate, authentic, and original pre 1960 Soviet uniform with it's "original to the man" (unlike it's Western veteran counterpart's; and many of those I have seen are questionable to me in my opinion) decorations still affixed, is a beautiful, wonderful, and fanciful thing... I have yet to experience such a "score"... My kudos to anybody that has. Edited March 3, 2007 by RichieC
Guest Rick Research Posted March 3, 2007 Posted March 3, 2007 I agree. Properly displayed, dress uniforms require appropriate decorations, and as long as holes are not being gouged in where none were, then there SHOULD be full awards shown appropriate to the rank and period. An "underdressed" Colonel looks just as strange as an "overdressed" Corporal, and the above look good to me. One of the reasons I stayed away from parade dress uniforms-- back in the days when you could actually GET older uniforms -- was EXACTLY because I was not going to shell out (then) $300-400 for any old Lenin just to properly fit a 25 years service officer's tunic on a display mannequin.1940s-60s Service tunics were much "cheaper," though finding appropriate pinback ribbon bars is also difficult. I've only found a few of those with pins rusting in-place enough to feel confident that they were original to the tunic.Though every so often, one finds something TRULY bizarre and "impossible"...
RichieC Posted March 3, 2007 Posted March 3, 2007 Do I have his ORS and Guards Badge reversed?My question is still unanswered...
Riley1965 Posted March 3, 2007 Posted March 3, 2007 (edited) Here's my M1949 Air force Transirional Parade Uniform. It has the rank of Captain.It now has the proper shirt and tie. Doc Edited March 3, 2007 by Riley1965
Nack Posted March 3, 2007 Author Posted March 3, 2007 (edited) My question is still unanswered...I couldn't find a photo in my collection with just a Guards badge and a screwback award, but your order seems correct.All the awards are authentic and period, but none came with the uniform they reside on. To my knowledge, I don't actually know anyone who has a uniform that has the former owner's awards. The awards are to add the full impression the uniform was meant to have. Fraud implies a bad purpose, i.e. an intent to deceive, which is not the reason these hunks of metal fill the holes in the uniforms.The jewel of my parade uniforms, M43 NKVD legal branch. Edited March 3, 2007 by Nack
Guest Rick Research Posted March 3, 2007 Posted March 3, 2007 That's a beauty! Are the collar tabs and cuff spools metal or bullion?Regarding placement of the Red Star and Guards Badge, I believe that proper precedence of awards worn on both sides of the chest works with higher/senior closest to the button-front and then out towards the shoulders. But in reality nobody ever seems to have been in complete compliance with regulations, as numerous photos threads scattered through the back pages here have shown. I haven't got any photos with just one screwback and a Guards badge, but in the ones with several screwbacks, the Guards Badge is always worn lower, so less "senior." That would make it an "outie."
Takc Posted March 3, 2007 Posted March 3, 2007 Richie, your airforce uniform lacks golden|silver stripes at the collar tabs
RichieC Posted March 3, 2007 Posted March 3, 2007 (edited) Richie, your airforce uniform lacks golden|silver stripes at the collar tabsI believe that this is the case because he is the rank of Private.The man in your photo is a Master Sergeant . Edited March 3, 2007 by RichieC
Nack Posted March 3, 2007 Author Posted March 3, 2007 (edited) That's a beauty! Are the collar tabs and cuff spools metal or bullion?Thanks! The spools and tabs are bullion and wire (?). Really nice work, with a nice accent of gold wire. A lot of work for something rarely seen! Edited March 3, 2007 by Nack
Takc Posted March 4, 2007 Posted March 4, 2007 I believe that this is the case because he is the rank of Private.The man in your photo is a Master Sergeant .yes, I forgot about it.what I have always being finding - sergeantsI have two - the same kit as at the photo posted by me and the artillery senior sergeant - black branch colour and artie emblems.I'll show it tomorrow.
Takc Posted March 4, 2007 Posted March 4, 2007 ah, here is it.the golden straps reflect the flash and look white...
RichieC Posted March 4, 2007 Posted March 4, 2007 ah, here is it.the golden straps reflect the flash and look white...It seems very nice. Model of after 1955? I have never seen one for sale.
Takc Posted March 4, 2007 Posted March 4, 2007 It seems very nice. Model of after 1955? I have never seen one for sale.Yes, they are both with VVS after 55, I only had made VVS basing on the photo I posted, and artie was a pure dembel with a wooden inserts in the collar tabs and shoulderboards (can you imagine this dumbass making wooden shoulderboards? I can)The artie was repaired alot - shoulderboards and collar tabs were repaired, original wool saved but wooden inserts in collar tabs were replaced; I also replaced the handmade shoulderboards with regular, retaining the original emblems, buttons and golden straps.
Alfred Posted March 4, 2007 Posted March 4, 2007 (edited) So, here are better pictures. Another tank officer. Edited March 4, 2007 by Alfred
Alfred Posted March 4, 2007 Posted March 4, 2007 (edited) another picture, the buttons have no date on the backside Edited March 4, 2007 by Alfred
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