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    Posted

    I bought this rare beauty...cost me a small fortune though.

    Dear William,

    congratulations to both sets (4 awards + ribbons + cases) :cheers: .

    Do you know the history of these orders - foreign politicans or diplomats?

    So you are the lucky owner of the 2nd & 3rd class of Yugoslavia's highest ranking order :D .

    Do you also have a "Hero of Socialist Labour (YU)" in your collection, you use as your avatar in the "other" forum :unsure: ?

    Best regards :beer:

    Christian

    BTW: Many thanks for participating at GMIC and showing your treasuries to us :cheers: .

    Posted (edited)

    Christian,

    The awards I posted are 1st class and 2nd class (not 2nd & 3rd).

    The gradation for Order of Yugoslavian Star goes like this:

    1. Grand Star - breast star is huge, it contains 10 diamonds and 45 rubies. There's also a badge worn on the shoulder sach.

    2. 1st class - on shoulder sach. Breast star is smaller, no diamonds and only has rubies on the small red star, shoulder sach is similar to the Grand.

    3. 2nd class - on neck ribbon. Breast star is the same as 1st class. Neck badge is worn on a ribbon around the neck.

    4. 3rd class - same as 2nd, but no breast star.

    1st class I decided not to keep, as there's a mismatch between small red stars on the sach and on the breast star - one is made of enamels, another of rubies. I think they should be the same, so for the price I'd like to have 100% legitimate matching set.

    William

    PS - here's Grand Star (not mine :-) ) from Yuri Yashnev's site.

    Edited by new world
    Posted

    Dear William,

    sorry, it had been my mistake :blush: .

    I regarded the "Grand Star" as the 1st class of the order - among CCCP-orders you just count from 1 to 3 ;) .

    Do you have a link to Yuri Yashnev's website :love: ?

    Best regards :beer:

    Christian

    • 3 weeks later...
    Posted

    Here are all the 3 stars, from the GRAND Yugoslav star (Velika Jugoslovenska zvezda), thr first class (Jugoslovenska zvezda na lenti) and of the second class (Jugoslovenska zvezda na ogrlici)

    all from my old collection I have sold "en bloc" a couple of years ago.

    Best regards

    Milan

    Posted

    As you can see with the order of the Yugoslav star there exist different variations, the one with the star in(mostly) synthetic ruby stone and the older examples with the star made in red enamel. Only a couple of sets have been manufactured with real genuine stones !

    regards

    Milan

    • 6 months later...
    Posted

    I bought a nice set of the 3rd class, the badge with two ribbon bars and it's huuuge case from the son of a German wearer, together with his Lebanese order of the cedar, officer's cross. I hope to get the matching documents soon ... :love:

    As you can see with the order of the Yugoslav star there exist different variations, the one with the star in(mostly) synthetic ruby stone and the older examples with the star made in red enamel. Only a couple of sets have been manufactured with real genuine stones !

    How can I recognize if these stones are real or not? And does it make any difference?

    Posted

    Hello

    mostly all "normal" delivered pieces have synthetic stones mounted, there have been a couple of "special" issues delivered on even more special occasions for the special friends of Tito.

    OK ok, no more jokes, there is absolutely no evidence of how many items have been manufactured with real stones, altough the institutional description of mostly all orders speaks of real stones the main issues have all been with synthetic stones made. I have seen in all the years only one first class with real stones which was given to one of Titos close "compadres" in the Yu- communist party.

    You can always ask for a geological proof which is probably to expensive (IMHO).

    Best regards

    Milan

    I bought a nice set of the 3rd class, the badge with two ribbon bars and it's huuuge case from the son of a German wearer, together with his Lebanese order of the cedar, officer's cross. I hope to get the matching documents soon ... :love:

    How can I recognize if these stones are real or not? And does it make any difference?

    Posted

    Okay, thank you. So I presume they're are synthetic, but actually I don't mind. What does such a set of 3rd class with case and two ribbons bars usualy cost, with and without document? I have only one catalogue with foreign orders (Zeige's price guide from 2005), and there it is listet with a very helpful " * " for fool's price. :speechless:

    Posted

    ... What does such a set of 3rd class with case and two ribbons bars usualy cost, with and without document? I have only one catalogue with foreign orders (Zeige's price guide from 2005), and there it is listet with a very helpful " * " for fool's price. :speechless:

    Last 3rd class (cased) I saw for sale two weeks ago was offered at $600.

    William

    • 2 weeks later...
    Posted (edited)

    Grand Star 1cl at Lanz-Auction with an est. of EUR 1.000,-

    Gentlemen,

    Lanz-Munich offers at the coming auction, at the 27th of november, a 1cl, which belonged to a very prominent Austrian politican:

    http://www.sixbid.com/home/auctions/lanz/m.../la140/a140.htm (go to item No. 58 !)

    Anton Benya had been for many years the president of the Austrian Trade Union and the president of the Austrian Parliament: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_Benya

    I think, that the estimated hammer-price of EUR 1.000,- is rather low for such a rare order to such a historic personality :jumping: .

    Best regards :beer:

    Christian

    Edited by Christian Zulus
    • 2 months later...
    Posted

    Order of Grand Star of Yugoslavia, there are two types. This one has red star made from rubies.

    And nice photo of Queen Elisabeth II visiting Yugoslavia in 1972. She was awarded at that time with order Grand Star of Yugoslavia.

    You can even see it, Queen is wearing this order on this photo. Very positive photo from internet, Queen is laughing (not seen very often).

    enjoy.

    Posted

    Order of Grand Star of Yugoslavia, there are two types. This one has red star made from rubies.

    And nice photo of Queen Elisabeth II visiting Yugoslavia in 1972. She was awarded at that time with order Grand Star of Yugoslavia.

    You can even see it, Queen is wearing this order on this photo. Very positive photo from internet, Queen is laughing (not seen very often).

    enjoy.

    I wonder what she does with all these now defunct baubles from totalitarian, or other here today, gone tomorrow regimes? :unsure: , she must have suitcases full of them, Ceausescu is another prime example, does she say, "Nasty man, in the bin with it"

    sorry to sound flippant, but it makes you wonder. BTW a very nice example of?a?much?under-rated?area?of?interest

    regards

    Alex K

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