jonightflyer Posted April 17, 2007 Posted April 17, 2007 Recently bought by the IWM for NZ$ 3,000,000 but will stay in NZ in perpetuity.
Paul R Posted April 17, 2007 Posted April 17, 2007 That is a truly amazing bar. I am glad that it gets to stay home! What are the last four medals on the bar?
Davey Posted April 17, 2007 Posted April 17, 2007 Hi,This is a truly impressive collection.Thanks for showing.Rgds,Davey
Ed_Haynes Posted April 17, 2007 Posted April 17, 2007 (edited) What are the last four medals on the bar?- New Zealand War Service Medal- Coronation Medal 1953- Jubilee Medal 1977- New Zealand Commemoration Medal 1990 Edited April 17, 2007 by Ed_Haynes
Riley1965 Posted April 17, 2007 Posted April 17, 2007 That's a VERY NICE bar!!! I, too, am glad that it has a permanent public home. Doc
Ed_Haynes Posted April 17, 2007 Posted April 17, 2007 I, too, am glad that it has a permanent public home.And not with Lord Ashcan? I do find it odd that the IWM bought something for display in NZ. When they can't maintain and expand their own collections!
Paul R Posted April 17, 2007 Posted April 17, 2007 - New Zealand War Service Medal- Coronation Medal 1953- Jubilee Medal 1977- New Zealand Commemoration Medal 1990Thanks Ed.
jonightflyer Posted April 17, 2007 Author Posted April 17, 2007 And not with Lord Ashcan?Ashcroft offered the family a great deal more but the NZ Government would not santion the medals leaving New Zealand. An arrangement was then reached with the IWM that satisfied Upham's three daughters and allowed his medals to remain on display in the Waiouru Army Museum where they had previously been on loan since their father's death. In perpetuity in this case means for 999 years.
jonightflyer Posted April 17, 2007 Author Posted April 17, 2007 When I get a sec, I will display NZ's other famous VC groupings from the same museum.
jonightflyer Posted April 21, 2007 Author Posted April 21, 2007 The VC group of the great NZ sniper Clive Hulme who the PC Brigade said last year should have been arrested for war crimes! He ventured into enemy territory and accounted for 33 German snipers in eight days on Crete whilst dressed in enemy camouflage.
Jacky Posted April 23, 2007 Posted April 23, 2007 I think the medals have been remounted instead of leaving them on the original ribbons,this becomes quite clear from the war medal, as this one has no MID-leaves on it's ribbon....But both groups are very very nice!Kind regards,Jacky
Michael Johnson Posted April 23, 2007 Posted April 23, 2007 It's also interesting that the Greek War Medal is the later version with the king's head replaced by the Victory of Samothrace.
jonightflyer Posted May 5, 2007 Author Posted May 5, 2007 Didn't realise until I read in the paper today that Clive Hulme's son was Denny Hulme, the 1967?Formula?1 world motor racing champion.More NZ VC groups coming soon.
David S Posted May 6, 2007 Posted May 6, 2007 Smashing groups !!! Nice to see it went to NZPatiently waiting to see more groups
jonightflyer Posted May 15, 2007 Author Posted May 15, 2007 Two?more?outstanding?WW2?VC?groups?from?NZ... Hinton and Elliott.
Kev in Deva Posted May 15, 2007 Posted May 15, 2007 It's also interesting that the Greek War Medal is the later version with the king's head replaced by the Victory of Samothrace.Hallo Michael It states in "GREEK MEDALS by GEORGE STRATOUDAKIS" ISBN:960-91397-2-8.Page 106: 128 Commemorative MEDAL of the WAR of 1940-41 (Army), II Type.In 1983 because of the political change, it was decided that the medal was to be replaced by a new form of Medal.The Crown and the head of King George II on the obverse was replaced by "NIKE of Samothrace."Kevin in Deva
jonightflyer Posted June 3, 2007 Author Posted June 3, 2007 A few more of NZ's highest gallantry winners from the army.Judson VC, DCM, MM. from WW1.
jonightflyer Posted June 3, 2007 Author Posted June 3, 2007 Two GC winners, Russell?WW2 and Hudson Vietnam.
Tiger-pie Posted June 4, 2007 Posted June 4, 2007 The VC group of the great NZ sniper Clive Hulme who the PC Brigade said last year should have been arrested for war crimes! He ventured into enemy territory and accounted for 33 German snipers in eight days on Crete whilst dressed in enemy camouflage.Sneeky bugger. Well if he didn't get caught then good on him, after all it was a very effective cam pattern. Russian snipers and marksmen sometimes used German camouflage, despite the obvious dangers of being captured and shot, which was usually the end result for snipers anyway, or being shot by your own troops by mistake.Regards;Johnsy
jonightflyer Posted December 4, 2007 Author Posted December 4, 2007 Gentlemen, as you are doubt aware, all of these VCs and GCs were stolen in the raid at the weekend.The police have announced tonight that they are following strong leads so there is hope yet that the medals will be recovered.I will keep you posted of any developments in that direction.
jonightflyer Posted January 9, 2008 Author Posted January 9, 2008 Not a thing heard since they were stolen (the police say that they have no firm leads)... as someone said in another thread probably overseas by now in a private collection from which they will never reappear.
Greg Posted May 3, 2008 Posted May 3, 2008 Latest news is that they have been recovered last week. Greg.
Taz Posted May 3, 2008 Posted May 3, 2008 All recovered undamaged http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/02/16/2164574.htmRegards Eddie.
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