Luftwaffe New wedding photos! :) Need help on identifying the eagle in the first one

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Hey all got these as a graduation present to myself . I do need help identifying the eagle the gent is wearing in this first picture. I also see that he has a cuff title, is there anyway to see what the eagle represents and then look at a database of the squadrons who wore the same eagle? TIA and all the best, Jon

[Luftwaffe Rules]

Nice 2nd Version Luftwaffe Dress Dagger in this pic.

Edited June 6, 2007 by Luftwaffe Rules

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Notice the Tropical Cap and Dress Bayonet.

Edited June 6, 2007 by Luftwaffe Rules

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Tropical Cap and 1st Version Dress Dagger.

[TerryG]

The cuff titles are for flying technical personnel.

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Thanks Mr. Terry I meant the cuff title though on the Gent in the first picture, I believe what the others are wearing were called Trade Patches in which you are correct they are technical flight personel.

But Im trying to find out what eagle the gent in the first picture is wearing on his left breast. TIA and all the best, Jon

[GeorgeCL]

Just guessing. Maybe italian?

George

[Paul R]

I think that the badge is some sort of croatian pilot's badge. I will check to be sure!

[Paul R]

It looks to be a variant of the badge on the below linked website. It is about half way down the page..

http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-medals/croatia.htm

[Scott]

The wing in the first photo looks Italian to me as well. The cuff title looks to have white border stripes (?) which could be "Herman Goring" (hard to tell for certain). The white-top hats are the summer wear type (I think 'Tropical' hats would be the tan variety).

Great photos.

Scott

(photo credit: J. Temple-West)

Edited June 7, 2007 by Scott

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It does indeed have white border stripes! Wow thats awsome , how would one in the H.G. earn the Italian wings?

Also here is an extreme close up, you can just make out the shape of the head so I do believe it is Italian! .

And obviously with Mr. Pauls informative article on the H.G. this picture would have been taken 1943 or beyond correct? Since thats when they got rid of the white tabs with colored piping and just made the tabs have full waffenfarbe color.

Thank you guys soo much for your help!!!

TIA and all the best, Jon

Edited June 7, 2007 by Luftwaffe Rules

[buellmeister]

Jon,

Great Pictures my friend!

Regards,

Joel

[Scott]

Jon,

Can you post another shot zoomed-in on the cuff title area? Herman Goring was only a guess on my part. IMO, the photo is earlier than 1943, perhaps pre-Sep 39: he's a jr NCO and is only wearing a sport badge and not a single ribbon (of course anything is possible).

Scott

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I understand, heres the best I could do, the photo isnt very showing or clear as far as the eagle or the cuff title goes. It appears though to be the block lettering used on the H.G. cuff titles. Doesnt appear to be the Suterland Script (spl?).

Thank you guys for the comments! Also what did a Luftwaffe personnel have to do to earn Italian wings?

TIA and All the best, Jon

Edited June 7, 2007 by Luftwaffe Rules

[Paul R]

This is a strange one... The tabs do not appear to be white.

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This is a strange one... The tabs do not appear to be white.

I agree which is why I was guessing its after 1943? But who knows perhaps the title is for Afrika? But does anyone know how Luftwaffe men got the Italian flying badge? TIA and all the best, Jon

[Scott]

Thanks Jon - that does look like an HG cuff title. As for the wings, the person may have attended an Italian pilot training course, or may have been awarded them as an honorary member of, or advisor to an Italian flying unit.

Scott

Edited June 7, 2007 by Scott

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Thanks Scott, as Mr. Paul said this is very interesting indeed. I wish the picture had some sort of caption behind it! All the best, Jon