James T Posted June 26, 2007 Posted June 26, 2007 This was the first British Medal I ever bought back in 86, I just liked the large ring attachment for the ribbon and later found out that it was a good start. Named to John Smith 42nd or R.H. Regt InfantryRegardsJim
Alex K Posted June 26, 2007 Posted June 26, 2007 Hi James, welcome to the forum. Nice medal, I'll add one to my collection one day, regardsAlex K
Paul R Posted June 26, 2007 Posted June 26, 2007 WOW talk about rare!! What ribbon was worn with this medal?
Ulsterman Posted June 26, 2007 Posted June 26, 2007 Great medal- and a GREAT regiment. To have seen what he saw that day-
paul wood Posted June 26, 2007 Posted June 26, 2007 WOW talk about rare!! What ribbon was worn with this medal?
paul wood Posted June 26, 2007 Posted June 26, 2007 (edited) Same ribbon as on the Army Gold Cross, Gold Medal, MGS, Hanoverian Waterloo and Burma Medal 1826, crimson edged with dark blue.PaulWOW talk about rare!! What ribbon was worn with this medal? Edited June 26, 2007 by paul wood
Ed_Haynes Posted June 26, 2007 Posted June 26, 2007 Yes, the standard "military ribbon" of the age.See: http://www.medals.org.uk/united-kingdom/un...-kingdom030.htm
Brian Wolfe Posted June 26, 2007 Posted June 26, 2007 This was the first British Medal I ever bought back in 86, I just liked the large ring attachment for the ribbon and later found out that it was a good start. Named to John Smith 42nd or R.H. Regt InfantryRegardsJimHi Jim,Good start indeed, what a great medal. I've pretty well given up hope of owning one, maybe in the next life time. Welcome to the forum.Cheers Brian
deptfordboy Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 Hi Jim, That's a super medal - I have my eye on one myself, one day... It's interesting that about 10 minutes before I saw your post I was reading Antiques Trade Gazette which lists a Waterloo medal for sale at Lawrences auctioneers in Somerset. This one is to Lewis Polson, 42nd or R.H. Infantry. Did the 42nd play a pivotal role in the battle? I know some regiments are more desirable than others, but not much more than that. Cheers Gilbert
Ed_Haynes Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 (edited) Be careful here and stick to reliable sourcs as there are DANGEROUS fakes about in quantity.There were good articles in the OMRS journal and JOMSA on this. Edited June 27, 2007 by Ed_Haynes
paul wood Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 Dear Gilbert,The 42nd Highland Regiment were certainly in the thick of it with 3 officers killed and 21 wounded and 47 other ranks killed and 266 wounded (337 casualties out of a strenght of 526). The first Battalion formed part of 9 British Brigade commanded by Major General Pack which was part of Reserve 5 Division. Certainly a most desireable medal and certainly worth a premium over some regiments which saw relatively small action at Waterloo.Hope this helpsPaulHi Jim, That's a super medal - I have my eye on one myself, one day... It's interesting that about 10 minutes before I saw your post I was reading Antiques Trade Gazette which lists a Waterloo medal for sale at Lawrences auctioneers in Somerset. This one is to Lewis Polson, 42nd or R.H. Infantry. Did the 42nd play a pivotal role in the battle? I know some regiments are more desirable than others, but not much more than that. Cheers Gilbert
deptfordboy Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 Thanks Paul, That's really helpful. I am vaguely tempted by the one up for auction (estimate ?800, but these generally tend to be conservative) - however, as Ed says you really have to know your stuff with these medals and I am certainly not confident enough in my judgement on them at present. Cheers Gilbert
paul wood Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 Gilbert,Unless you can physically examine the medal I would advise extreme caution, unless it is one of the reputable specailist auctioneers or dealers.Many Waterloo medals around are renamed (albeit relatively contempary with the issue) for two main reasons. The recipient was a thirsty man and pawned the medal and then bought another one later or as it was guaranteed a free drink if an elderly gent walked in wearing a Waterloo medal, so some were altered for the purpose. Also not so much a problem as I am concerened, sometimes the spelling name of the recipient on the rim was incorrect and was corrected by the recipient (In that case you have to rememeber that they didn't just have their medals for the benefit of future collectors). If you are able to view a local sale always take Spink's British Battles and Medals with you which gives clear illustrations of the correct naming style.All the bestPaulThanks Paul, That's really helpful. I am vaguely tempted by the one up for auction (estimate ?800, but these generally tend to be conservative) - however, as Ed says you really have to know your stuff with these medals and I am certainly not confident enough in my judgement on them at present. Cheers Gilbert
Naxos Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 Wow, what a history behind this medalThe famous Inn:Regards, Hardy
9th Black Watch Posted June 28, 2007 Posted June 28, 2007 Jim,There appears to be two John Smiths on the 42nd Waterloo Roll.One served in Capt. and Lieut.-Col. Thomas F. Wade's Company, the other in Capt. James Stirling's Company.There are also at least two Pte. John Smith's on the MGS roll (one with single clasp Corunna and another seven clasp medal).All the best,Derek
leigh kitchen Posted September 6, 2007 Posted September 6, 2007 Is the suspension ring an original steel one, or a replacement silver one - looks like silver?
James T Posted September 11, 2007 Author Posted September 11, 2007 Is the suspension ring an original steel one, or a replacement silver one - looks like silver?Just got the medal out and confirmed that it is a steel ring and clip once I found the medal I had to look for a magnet, took longer to find one than the medal.Jim
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