Soviet Order of Service to the Motherland research

[Riley1965]

Gentlemen,

Is the Order of Service to the Motherland researchable. I have a 3rd Class that I would like to get researched, if possible.

Doc

[Ed_Haynes]

Sometimes, sure. There are a number of researched ones presented here.

Many, however (late? unissued? secret?), defy research. Still, worth asking, but we're pretty much down to The Sole Source for Research.

All research, however, seems to be stalled (at best) these days. Not sure if there has been a policy mood-shift in Russia?

[Guest Rick Research]

God knows I wouldn't want him sent to the reanimated Gulags on my account.

Is it just a loose one, or with the Orders Book? What's the serial number?

[Riley1965]

Rick,

It's a loose one. Serial number 70572. Ed, Thanks for the info!!

Doc

[Guest Rick Research]

1985 or 1986... could be VERY interesting.

[Riley1965]

Thanks!!! I'll go ahead and try to get it researched.

Doc

[Ed_Haynes]

Thanks!!! I'll go ahead and try to get it researched.

Doc

Early enough, I think it would be worth asking. If the answer is "no", it costs nothing (even though it takes more "person-hours" to get a negative result than to get a positive one).

[JimZ]

Stumbled across this thread...

My third class is courtesy of Dave! I would daresay it is!!

Jim

[Riley1965]

Stumbled across this thread...

My third class is courtesy of Dave! I would daresay it is!!

Jim

I've asked for the "full package" from Gregory. Let's hope that it is researchable.

Doc

[NavyFCO]

Doc-

I actually wrote an article about researching the Homeland 3rd in the JOMSA about a year ago. I'm sure you've got a copy of it. Yes, they are researchable, but there are some gaps and nowadays...who knows if research will come back.

Good luck!

Dave

[Bob]

http://www.collectrussia.com/DISPITEM.HTM?ITEM=21211

an interesting documented group!

[JimZ]

Nice partial group - IF!!!

I am not sure I'd be too convinced about the third class pertaining to the second class on account of the booklet, and its calligraphy which looks wrong to me. I also think that Igor proposing that research alone may confirm or otherwise means that he too must have some doubts!

But at least the 2nd class + booklet should be OK with a PMD certificate ... no? Maybe not - If I am not mistaken (and please correct me if I am wrong), PMD had stopped certifying the 3rd and 2nd classes on account of the ease with which these orders could be faked. That leaves me with less assurance from that particular certificate than I would get if it was anything else certified by PMD.

At least those are my thoughts.

Anyone else?

[Ferdinand]

I don't understand why Igor didn't just research the group himself. That only takes 1 or maybe 2 weeks nowadays, would remore al doubt and would certainly raise the value of this set with more than the research costs.

[Bob]

Maybe he did and nothing came out?

http://www.collectrussia.com/DISPITEM.HTM?ITEM=21216

Similar disclaimer here...

[RedMaestro]

Maybe he did and nothing came out?

http://www.collectrussia.com/DISPITEM.HTM?ITEM=21216

Similar disclaimer here...

Interesting! I didn't read the fine print there.

Is research even possible on the Order for Personal Courage?

[JimZ]

Interesting! I didn't read the fine print there.

Is research even possible on the Order for Personal Courage?

Last I remember it was not. At least the CCCP variation. Note that is post Soviet or rather Russian Federation with the blank red banner. Hideous!!

I would doubt that anything that is Russian Federation is researchable but I stand to be corrected on this one.

I haven't researched anything in a while now And I have a frame full of orders staring at me and asking me.... WHY NOT????

Edited July 3, 2009 by JimZ