Luftwaffe Fallschirmjager Badges.

[John]

Hi All.

Can any one tell me how many makers there were of Fallschirmjager badges? And what the makers marks looked like.

Thank you.

[J Temple-West]

Hi John,

The list is as follows;

C.E Juncker.

W.Deumer.

GWL

BSW

G.H Osang.

P. Meybauer.

B&NL.

F.W Assmann.

JMME & Sohn.

Unknown Maker.. Unmarked.

All the maker marks can be found through the link..

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=616

There is also a pretty comprehensive thread on the subject, should you need pix of originals for comparison.

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=595

[Paul R]

Here is mine... It is not maker marked and I cannot find this type anywhere. I will keep looking and will post my results

Paul

[Paul R]

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[J Temple-West]

Paul,

Although unmarked, what you have there is an example, in zinc, by C.E Juncker.

[Paul R]

Thank you for your response, John. I dont mean to be a pain yet by looking at the above links, the Junkers badges seem to have different hinges and catches. Was this type of assembly done during a certain time period?

Regards

Paul

[J Temple-West]

Thank you for your response, John. I dont mean to be a pain yet by looking at the above links, the Junkers badges seem to have different hinges and catches. Was this type of assembly done during a certain time period?

Regards

Paul

Is there a metallurgist in the house?

Generally, hinge and catch systems were soldered to the badge. On early nickel silver/tombak/buntmetal badges, the soldering process was quite easy as the manufacturers were working with high grade metals, which meant that the attaching of parts to badges could be made with small amounts of solder. As the war progressed, these high grade metals became harder to come by due to the demands of the war machine and alternate, lower grade metals were utilized in the production of non essential items such as medals and awards.

On the introduction of zinc, it was found that conventional hinge/catch assemblies were harder to attach as it needed a larger amount of solder to make the parts stable. This is when the use of hinge and catch plates came in to existence.

Instead of soldering the hinge/catch directly to the badge, these parts were first soldered to the plate, and then the plate attached to the badge. This gave a larger area to work with and a much more stable platform.

So, this is why you see a difference in reverse setups on early/late badges.

The general rule is? If the badge has a hinge/catch plate, it?s zinc and a late piece. Of course there are exceptions, with certain makers using their own methods in an effort to combat the problems of attaching parts to their zinc badges in the form of riveting, making the hinge an integral part of the die, soldering the catch into a recess in the badge, etc.

Your "Juncker" shows one of the typical setups for their zinc series. As well as the oblong catch plate, Juncker also used a round plate on many of their badges, another characteristic to look out for.

Hope this makes sense.

[Paul R]

Thank you for your explaination. It does make sense.

[John]

Excellent response. Thank you John and Paul.

I will post my new Junkers FJ badge tomorrow, family committments allowing! Your comments would be appreciated.

Regards,

John.

[ERIC]

Hi John,

The list is as follows;

C.E Juncker.

W.Deumer.

GWL

BSW

G.H Osang.

P. Meybauer.

B&NL.

F.W Assmann.

JMME & Sohn.

Unknown Maker.. Unmarked.

Hi John,

Isn't JFS a known and accepted maker as well?? I know I read somewhere that Paras, as obscure as they are, existed by this maker as well and are accepted as originals.

ERIC

[J Temple-West]

Hi John,

Isn't JFS a known and accepted maker as well?? I know I read somewhere that Paras, as obscure as they are, existed by this maker as well and are accepted as originals.

ERIC

Hi de hi, Eric..

I did consider putting JFS in the list as a possible maker but decided against it as I?ve not seen enough evidence to support the theory. As you say, JFS para badges have a certain amount of acceptance. Personally? I remain sceptical, but with an open mind.

[Stogieman]

I'd agree with John on this. I've never seen a credible/provenenced Para Badge by JFS

[Nan Su]

Hi John & Eric..

BSW (Br?der Schneider, Wien)is the manufacturer which confirmed~~

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=595&st=40

About JFS, I agree with your viewpoint. I inquire from some materialsto such technical information, hoped has the help to confirm it.

[Nan Su]

I thought is the replica, but does for the material picturepreservation.

[Nan Su]

Reverse #2:

[Nan Su]

My English is not good, but I longed for learns more knowledge to your.Thanks

[Jan Arne S]

Hi Nan Su !

Very interesting LW Para .

I only seen 3 of these "JFS" LW Para badges throught the years I have been on internett .

From pics it looks like a good one to me . Think You have got a good deal on that one .

Jan Arne

[ERIC]

Hi Nan Su !

Very interesting LW Para .

I only seen 3 of these "JFS" LW Para badges throught the years I have been on internett .

From pics it looks like a good one to me . Think You have got a good deal on that one .

Jan Arne

Hello Nan Su,

It looks like the others that were deemed acceptable to me as well. As Jan stated,

'very interesting' - I wouldn't call it an outright fake - in a way, I like it alot.

ERIC

[J Temple-West]

Just to add a little something to the mix....what do we then think of this hollow-back version that I have in my files?

Should the owner wish me to remove this image, I will, of course, comply.