Guest Rick Research Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 first you find a 1st type, custom modernized Prussian Frauenverdienstkreuz and THEN you find this:Yes folks. It is an all but mythical Schwarzburg-Sondershausen Ehrenkreuz 2nd Class X from 1914-18. When its owner comes by for Magic Epsonization, shall make mucho BIG scans. Try finding one. TRY.Anyone who's SEEN one offered for sale recently-- what was the asking price? Big Old " * " (= Don't Bother Asking, We Haven't Seen One Either) in the Official Price Guide 2005/2006.Luckily, all grades of the Schwarzburg House Order and affiliated Medals came on the same ribbon.Because I have inherited from my fellow packrat the late Tony Colson, a choice of TWO old tailor's shop ribbons for this sad, lonely orphan, shivering without one, all alone in the wide world:Please vote:1) would "SEK2X" would look better displayed on a medal bar ribbon saved by Thrifty Third Reich tailor?or2) slide on unissued out of the case ribbon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Y Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 My vote's for 2. Got enough to make a bow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 You mean like the one pulled off a medal bar? THAT would be a naughty thing to do with a Minty Flatty! Besides, the presentation ribbon is wider-- wouldn't be used on a medal bar (wasteful of them to have done that).There will be a Live Investiture of the selection at our monthly show 1 June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruelle Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 Hi Rick, Very very very rare and beautiful order . Like I have a box for third class, which is the same for the 2nd class, you should send it to me to see if it will be in good place with the box Christophe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
922F Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Magnificant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schießplatzmeister Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Hello Rick:This piece is actually a Schwarzburg-Rudolstadt Ehrenkreuz 2. Klasse mit Schwertern as it has the "FG" monogram on the reverse center.Since it is not what you thought it was Rick, feel free to send it to me! Congratulations on owning such a scarce and wonderful item!"SPM" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Ahhh. I can't tell the almost Arabic squiggle from the reflection. The Official Price Guide is also reflections and obscurities. (On the other hand, the OPG also seems to indicate that the Rudolstadt version never changed from Really Really Gold to silver-gilt, so.... )Will have to see what the Magic Epson can do when it comes by for a visit.Meanwhile, what about the ribbon selection election, folks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schießplatzmeister Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Hello again Rick:I believe that the Rudolstadt pieces are probably a bit more scarce than the Sondershausen pieces. So, the God of collecting really really likes you!!The "Official Price Guide" is sometimes lacking in information, so I wouldn't necessarily discount a piece that doesn't conform exactly to what is "supposed" to exist.I believe that three (3) possibilities COULD exist for genuine badges: gold w/ gold swords (early war), gold w/silver-gilt swords (pre-war badge converted during the war), and silver-gilt w/silver-gilt swords (a post-1916 badge).Are there any Schwarzburg specialists out there?"SPM" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schießplatzmeister Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Hello again Rick:Oh yes, I forgot the mention, my vote is for the ribbon on the right as it looks like older silk material. The ribbon on the left looks like 1930's-1940's rayon possibly."SPM" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Not mine. Don't I wish!!! He upon whom the God Of Collecting smileth, that be not moi, but my very lucky friend.That's puuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure unused sillllllllllky on the left, and hacked out of a medal bar on the right. The thrifty German tailor Tony acquired his remnants from used the parts from his re-mounted updated 1930s-40s bars to slice up into strips for the "guts" of new bars. Recycling... but also means most are no longer complete like that drape is. I kind of like the medal bar one too. Even as a solo, at least it makes a "nest" for the Cross, framing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 I vote for the bowed mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 So did my lucky friend, who came by today for a massive Epsonization session. Naturally, I could not resist scanning my one and only SEK2X ribbon bar from the David S collection with it: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Supersized, for all of us who will never never never see another again for as long as we live:My best guess is hollow gold construction, from the weight. No wear, if it is gilt. I got to... touch it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medalnet Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Congrats, those are really really rare ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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