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I?ve see this group, looking for another thing...

What do you think??

Miguel

Miguel,

The pictures are not the best, but I can see quite a few problems already:

. ORS: later type, original SN erased and replaced

. OPW: fake pin, fake suspension, soldered ring, SN does not correspond to the type

. Booklet: I've got a funny feeling about it. I don't like the ink mostly

Marc

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Miguel,

The pictures are not the best, but I can see quite a few problems already:

. ORS: later type, original SN erased and replaced

. OPW: fake pin, fake suspension, soldered ring, SN does not correspond to the type

. Booklet: I've got a funny feeling about it. I don't like the ink mostly

Marc

Mark.

Why are we discussing this group in the research section.

This should be in the Soviet orders medals section

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True. But from the emerging picture, maybe it belonge better in the "fakes" section?

Agreed.

As a general suggestion, could the title of this forum perhaps be broadened to "Documented and/or Researched Awards and Groups?"

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Agreed.

As a general suggestion, could the title of this forum perhaps be broadened to "Documented and/or Researched Awards and Groups?"

Personally, I feel the "researched" focus should be maintained. documented (only) items can go with undocumented items (until they are researched?).

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Yes, transfer this group to the fakes section:

1. The pages in the book were bleached and new entries were added.

2. I don't like how the OGPW2nd looks, but I will defer to people more savvy with these to point out the flaws.

3. The Red Star is a later variation with the serial number erased and re-engraved.

Junk!

Dave

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Mark.

Why are we discussing this group in the research section.

This should be in the Soviet orders medals section

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Kristof,

I was simply answering Miguel's questions about the authenticity of this group.

Under the pretext that this is the "Researched Awards & Groups" thread - and even though this group has NOT been researched - should we simply show anything and everything, including obviously fake items, and keep our foot in our mouth? I personally don't think so.

Now, I guess the thing to do would be to mover this thread to the "Fake" section.

Marc

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It is a shame that someone would ruin a legit order(s) to make this fake group. At the very least, the Red Star did belong to someone... now we will never know it's true story... I will move it to the fakes section.

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It is a shame that someone would ruin a legit order(s) to make this fake group. At the very least, the Red Star did belong to someone... now we will never know it's true story... I will move it to the fakes section.

Thanks to all...Sorry if I?ve post this in the wrong forum, but sometimes...the "border" became somewhat blurred...?

Regards

Miguel

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