Laurence Strong Posted August 11, 2006 Author Share Posted August 11, 2006 Thanks for those post's Guy Here are my latest finds:A Knight of the Order with a Palm leaf and the letter "A", would this be for WW1 or is it a made up one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Strong Posted August 11, 2006 Author Share Posted August 11, 2006 The reverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Strong Posted August 11, 2006 Author Share Posted August 11, 2006 Not the Order of Leopold but as Guy already posted one a Military Decoration, is it a 2nd class or is it missing the chevron like Guy's has? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Strong Posted August 11, 2006 Author Share Posted August 11, 2006 The reverse of it. Thanks to all for looking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrik Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 A Knight of the Order with a Palm leaf and the letter "A", would this be for WW1 or is it a made up one?Hi,The palm, having the cypher "A" of King Albert I, does indeed signify a WW1 wartime award. Similarly, the Military Decoration (2nd class as it doesn't have the 1st class chevron device on its ribbon) stems from the Albert I period as its reverse bears the cypher ...Nice ones !Cheers,Hendrik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Strong Posted August 12, 2006 Author Share Posted August 12, 2006 Thanks for clarifying that Hendrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vatjan Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 (edited) To get this thread back upon the right track, here is one op my knight badges.This one belonged to a Flemish WW1 soldier, who clearly a was Flemish nationalist, because he tore off the centre medaillon with the French inscription "l'union fait la force" and engraved a flemish lion in its stead. Jan Edited August 13, 2006 by Vatjan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacky Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 Nice one to know, however I must admit it's not really one I would like to have in my collection ......It appears somehow strange to me...And yes, let's split the thread so it will get the attention it deserves!!Kind regards,Jacky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vatjan Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 Nice one to know, however I must admit it's not really one I would like to have in my collection ......It appears somehow strange to me...Only that this one tells you way more about the recipient than any other "un-altered" ones one might in his collection. Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Strong Posted August 13, 2006 Author Share Posted August 13, 2006 I would not turn it down if it was offered to me. Do you know the recipient? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oli4vercammen Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 a strange one with caracter! I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Strong Posted August 14, 2006 Author Share Posted August 14, 2006 Just to help clarify things for me, the Knights level with the WW1 palm, would that have been issued to a civilian for bravery, because there are no crossed swords? Or could it also be issued to a soldier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vatjan Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 (edited) Just to help clarify things for me, the Knights level with the WW1 palm, would that have been issued to a civilian for bravery, because there are no crossed swords? Or could it also be issued to a soldier?No, they were given to soldiers, for bravery in the field.The crossed swords come later, every 10 years, to keep the memory alive, the government offers a "promotion" to veterans who have accumulaterd a certain amount of points. These points are calculated through the time spent in the trenches and the awards won. These promotion orders are distinguishable from the others through the application of swords.I admit it is quite complicated Jan Edited August 14, 2006 by Vatjan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oli4vercammen Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 two officers made by Wolfers (crossed arrows). A Flemish one and an official French one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oli4vercammen Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 close up of the Flemish center: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Strong Posted August 15, 2006 Author Share Posted August 15, 2006 (edited) Thanks for those 2, I am going to have to find some Flemish only ones. And where would I find these "crossed arrows" Edited August 15, 2006 by Laurence Strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oli4vercammen Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 where would I find these "crossed arrows"On the ring, next to the silver mark. The crossed arrows is the makers mark for Wolfers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_deploige Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 (edited) On the ring, next to the silver mark. The crossed arrows is the makers mark for WolfersDear Olivier, Sorry but I have to correct this, the crossed arrows are the Marks of WALRAVENS in Brussels and not from WOLFERS the mark was in use from 1942 until 1966 (end of Walravens) see here the mark Edited August 15, 2006 by g_deploige Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oli4vercammen Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 That's stange, becouse I have the french Officer in the order of Leopold II wich is marked with the arrows and is in a Wolfers box. I have a knight in the order of the crown wich is marked with the arrows and is in a box from Wolfers and I have a real golden miniature of the workersmedal wich is marked with the arrows and sits in a box of Wolfers.Can you give me an explenation for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_deploige Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 That's stange, becouse I have the french Officer in the order of Leopold II wich is marked with the arrows and is in a Wolfers box. I have a knight in the order of the crown wich is marked with the arrows and is in a box from Wolfers and I have a real golden miniature of the workersmedal wich is marked with the arrows and sits in a box of Wolfers.Can you give me an explenation for this?Walravens registerd this mark in 1942 by the Royal Mint in BrusselsIt is possible that Wolfers sold Pieces made by Walravens and put it in his boxes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oli4vercammen Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 That's an acceptable explenation. For those who can't make out that makers mark I've outlined it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Strong Posted September 13, 2006 Author Share Posted September 13, 2006 So what is this one? Is it legit or made up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_deploige Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 So what is this one? Is it legit or made up?The knight cross is given for actions in the 1st World War, for ancienety in the administration or the army or for other reason this person recieved the golden medal in the Order of Leopold II, with is lower in rank than the knight degree, for that reason a bar with the miniature of the golden medal was placed on the ribbon of the knight cross.the bars where created on the 19 january 1962, it exist olso for the medals and palms of the order of the crown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Strong Posted September 13, 2006 Author Share Posted September 13, 2006 Cool Thanks Guy are these seen often? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_deploige Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 Cool Thanks Guy are these seen often?Dear LaurenceI saw a few in collection, but to be honnest I never saw a recipent wearing it. Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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