Flammenwerfer! Flames, skulls and stuff

[Thomas W]

Two of the 21 A7V Sturmpanzer-Kraftwagen fielded by Germany in March 1918 pause on a dirt road for a photo opportunity by drakegoodman, on Flickr

Isn't it weird how back in the day, they would pose with prisoners like big-game hunters posing with the lion they'd shot in Africa? You can't do that today, if you follow the protocols of the Geneva Convention.

[Sergeant 08]

A smaller skull on a Interimspange. But for what kind of medal? Eiserne Division?

Edited September 24, 2010 by Sergeant 08

[Chris Boonzaier]

Was he too young to fight in WW1 and has the full "BYOM" (Buy your own medals) rack?

[Robin Lumsden]

A smaller skull on a Interimspange. But for what kind of medal? Eiserne Division?

Yes.............

Baltic veteran.

First three ribbons = Randow/Awaloff, Baltic Cross, Iron Division.

The photo is dated 1921, which would fit with these medals.

Edited September 25, 2010 by Robin Lumsden

[Robin Lumsden]

This is the type of skull he has put on his ribbon...............

By the way, Stefan.

Did you see Weitze had a Jungwolf badge on his site this week?

I missed it! :banger:

Edited September 25, 2010 by Robin Lumsden

[Robin Lumsden]

Here's a group currently up for sale.

The buyer will live to regret it, methinks. :speechless:

[dond]

Robin, is it a put together grouping or a mix of good and bad? I believe the wound badge might be suspect but the EKs look good to me. The ribbon bar and eppalettes may be good too. What are your thoughts on the skull and cuff title? Have you ever seen a real one to compare it too?

[dante]

Small ebay piece I just got "for the child in us all"

[Sergeant 08]

This is the type of skull he has put on his ribbon...............

By the way, Stefan.

Did you see Weitze had a Jungwolf badge on his site this week?

I missed it!

Yes, I have seen it! ;)

[Sergeant 08]

Small ebay piece I just got "for the child in us all"

Nice! Here is a similar item which was for sale last year.

[Sergeant 08]

Here's a group currently up for sale.

The buyer will live to regret it, methinks.

I wonder, what will be the final price........?

Until now it is a price, that you have to pay for a nice EK. But surely the price for the lot will rise! :D

Edited September 27, 2010 by Sergeant 08

[Sergeant 08]

I bought that item yesterday.

Prost!

PS: 24.12.1908! A X-mas gift!

Edited September 27, 2010 by Sergeant 08

[Chris Boonzaier]

Robin, is it a put together grouping or a mix of good and bad? I believe the wound badge might be suspect but the EKs look good to me. The ribbon bar and eppalettes may be good too. What are your thoughts on the skull and cuff title? Have you ever seen a real one to compare it too?

I think the cufftitle and skull ahve been added to a pile of originals, to give the skull and title a bit of credibility.

best

Chros

[dond]

Has anyone ever seen a cuff title like that before?

[Sergeant 08]

Has anyone ever seen a cuff title like that before?

Seen yes, but I have never had one in my hands.

[dond]

So why summarily dismiss it out of hand? Perhaps the seller would provide better pics etc.....

[Chris Boonzaier]

So why summarily dismiss it out of hand? Perhaps the seller would provide better pics etc.....

I think no matter what the Photos show, this will be a "feelings" call. My stomache says "Achtung!".

Its the same as with The variation FW skull way back on the thread, no matter how well it is made, my stomache says "No!" and some guys say "Yes!"... and we will never agree on it.

If we were to see closer photos, and the quality was great... would it mean they were good? IMHO no.

I dont like the way this group is made up... it is to "complete" with 2 rare badges and a bunch of comman stuff. No original paperwork, no pics... is that the ribbon bar a Lt Col would have had? what happened to his old WW1 dogtag? ... lots of little things that make me think as a group it is fishy...

For me the group is just not "right"... and I will never be able to proove it...

[dond]

But you can say the same for most groupings. That's why I'm more interested in the individual pieces vice the "grouping" as a whole.

[Robin Lumsden]

Robin, is it a put together grouping or a mix of good and bad? I believe the wound badge might be suspect but the EKs look good to me. The ribbon bar and eppalettes may be good too. What are your thoughts on the skull and cuff title? Have you ever seen a real one to compare it too?

Don. Sorry for the late reply.

It's a put together group, IMHO.

I saw an original Kampfwagen title about 10 years ago, and it was hand-sewn with thin lettering. Like the one in the book shown.

The skull is definitely duff.

It's based on the SS beret skull (not the other way round).

Original Kampfwagen skulls were always in metal.

Here are some pix............

[Robin Lumsden]

Next..........

[Robin Lumsden]

Another.............

[Robin Lumsden]

Its the same as with The variation FW skull way back on the thread, no matter how well it is made, my stomache says "No!"

Oh, ye of little faith !!!! :cheers:

Edited September 27, 2010 by Robin Lumsden

[Robin Lumsden]

The reverse of a REAL Kokampf TK badge should look something like this..............

[Robin Lumsden]

Small ebay piece I just got "for the child in us all"

Nice!

[Robin Lumsden]

Again............a metal TK.