Chris Boonzaier Posted December 3, 2009 Posted December 3, 2009 I am betting that in a few cases a firm in (lets say) London makes awards for a few countries. As some of these are multi part medals, if they can use the same dies to 80% to make a medal from country XXX and country YYY... they try and get the designs amended to suit their needs. Nice comparisons! Best Chris
taras Posted December 4, 2009 Author Posted December 4, 2009 I am betting that in a few cases a firm in (lets say) London makes awards for a few countries. As some of these are multi part medals, if they can use the same dies to 80% to make a medal from country XXX and country YYY... they try and get the designs amended to suit their needs. Nice comparisons! Best Chris You're right. I am of the same opinion. But I'm sure it isn't only "London's case". What about this couple France-Armenia?
taras Posted August 23, 2010 Author Posted August 23, 2010 An odd couple: Estonia and Ugandan tribal kingdom of Bunyoro-Kitara
taras Posted August 24, 2010 Author Posted August 24, 2010 What a great thread! Thanks, Taras. Hugh My pleasure :)
pluribus Posted October 15, 2010 Posted October 15, 2010 An odd couple: Estonia and Ugandan tribal kingdom of Bunyoro-Kitara Estonian order of Coat of Arms was designed by Estonian artist Paul Luhtein in 1936 and manufactured by Estonian firm Roman Tavast.
kapten_windu Posted October 16, 2010 Posted October 16, 2010 see what i found.. US soldiers medal and Indonesian 8 years APRI medal
kapten_windu Posted October 16, 2010 Posted October 16, 2010 see what i found.. US soldiers medal and Indonesian 8 years APRI medal
taras Posted October 17, 2010 Author Posted October 17, 2010 A little bit about Soviet legacy:) Hero's Golden Stars of Russian Federation, USSR, Belarus, People's Republics of Bulgaria and Albania k
taras Posted February 12, 2011 Author Posted February 12, 2011 Cambodia - Zambia http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/47863-zambia-order-of-the-grand-companion-of-freedom/
taras Posted July 27, 2011 Author Posted July 27, 2011 Here is an amusing company: Kim Il-sung, Georgi Dimitrov and Alexander I of Yugoslavia
JimZ Posted July 27, 2011 Posted July 27, 2011 Very interesting thread. I think that from a commercial/manufacturing point of view it makes sense to offer to use common dies and then change enamelling and central medallion. That way the 'extra die costs' are only for the central medallion. Its like wearing the same colour shirt with a different tie. This is someting that would not be possible in the case of ODMs that are of single piece construction. As for the post above, common ideology, rather than common dies are evidently the reason for the similarity. Keep them coming!!! Jim :cheers:
taras Posted July 27, 2011 Author Posted July 27, 2011 Very interesting thread. I think that from a commercial/manufacturing point of view it makes sense to offer to use common dies and then change enamelling and central medallion. That way the 'extra die costs' are only for the central medallion. Its like wearing the same colour shirt with a different tie. This is someting that would not be possible in the case of ODMs that are of single piece construction. As for the post above, common ideology, rather than common dies are evidently the reason for the similarity. Keep them coming!!! Jim Of course, when we are talking about the communist leaders Kim and Dimitrov, the ideological similarity is obvious, but Alexander the First was the KING of Yugoslavia Anyway Jim, thank for your kind words :beer:
JimZ Posted July 27, 2011 Posted July 27, 2011 (edited) Of course, when we are talking about the communist leaders Kim and Dimitrov, the ideological similarity is obvious, but Alexander the First was the KING of Yugoslavia Anyway Jim, thank for your kind words True, but that did not mean he did not have certain political leanings :-) ... or at worst was just lacking imagination. You do know the all those medals are the 'sons' of papa lenin (Tractor Lenin or Type 1) (picture source: wikipedia) ..... which was instituted as early as April1930.... Guess you have a fourth one to add on now.... (and surprised you could have missed the father of them all) Jim :cheers: Edited July 27, 2011 by JimZ
taras Posted July 27, 2011 Author Posted July 27, 2011 You are totally right. Moreover, this archetype (something encircled by a cereal wreath) is usual for Soviet and communist heraldry - from the very first Soviet order of the Red Banner and all types of the Soviet coat-of-arms By the way, there were the numerous unrealized (or unofficial) projects of the Soviet orders based on this principle. For example:
JimZ Posted July 27, 2011 Posted July 27, 2011 Infact the Durov book for the order of Lenin shows several of the designs that never made it to the mint. Again...very interesting thread. I will be following this Jim :cheers:
taras Posted July 29, 2011 Author Posted July 29, 2011 ...and (just for bonus track) Bolivia-Cuba-Guatemala-Peru
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