Ed_Haynes Posted March 25, 2006 Posted March 25, 2006 Yes, just putting up a closeup. There seems to be no relationship between types and numbers, though.
fjcp Posted March 25, 2006 Posted March 25, 2006 Whoops! Forgot to mention.... very neat with the "recycled" metal...... have you figured out what it was before it became a Partisan badge??Well I believe I have solved the mystery of what my badge may have been in its former life.My theory is that it was made from some scrap metal that was used for test strikes in the manufacture of other medals etc.My reason for thinking this is that the markings on my badge match perfectly with the markings of the enameled ring on the honorary medal of combat.I measured them and they are a perfect match. Not only the size of the pattern but also the diameter/arc of the medal is a perfect match.Well it's just a theory.My camera just died on me so please excuse the rather bad picture.JC
Ed_Haynes Posted March 25, 2006 Posted March 25, 2006 Well done! One more piece in the never-ending Mongolian puzzle.
Dolf Posted April 27, 2006 Posted April 27, 2006 (edited) A nice Partizan Badge Doc, 1943 type.Front page. Dolf Edited April 27, 2006 by Dolf
Dolf Posted April 27, 2006 Posted April 27, 2006 (edited) Pages 3 and 4.No number on the stamp as one of those previously posted by Jan.Dolf Edited April 27, 2006 by Dolf
Dolf Posted April 27, 2006 Posted April 27, 2006 Detail of the tiny pic (29mm X 21mm) of the recipient.Dolf
Dolf Posted April 27, 2006 Posted April 27, 2006 Pages 5 and 6.The date 20/3/32 means in fact 20/3/42 (right Jan? ) Dolf
Dolf Posted April 27, 2006 Posted April 27, 2006 (edited) The next pages have no stamps or dates, only text, posting them anyway as apparently no other samples have been posted before. And hoping someday someone will be able to translate all this for us... Pages 7 and 8.Dolf Edited April 27, 2006 by Dolf
Ed_Haynes Posted May 5, 2006 Posted May 5, 2006 (edited) So . . . are we (the apparently few survivors on this forum?) happy with this structure (until we know more?):Type 1.1 (screwback, numbered); Low = ??/High = 37Type 1.2 (screwback, unnumbered)Type 2.1 (pinback, numbered); Low = 4/High = 574Type 2.2 (pinback, numbered, made of ?recycled? materials); Low = 77/High = 89??? Edited May 5, 2006 by Ed_Haynes
Dolf Posted May 5, 2006 Posted May 5, 2006 (edited) So . . . are we (the apparently few survivors on this forum?) happy with this structure (until we know more?):Type 1.1 (screwback, numbered); Low = ??/High = 37Type 1.2 (screwback, unnumbered)Type 2.1 (pinback, numbered); Low = 4/High = 574Type 2.2 (pinback, numbered, made of ?recycled? materials); Low = 77/High = 89???Yeah, long time no posts on this Mongolian awards forum!... As for your Types & Variations list above it seems ok! Two Types with two Variations each seems to be just fine.Dolf (the other survivor ) Edited May 5, 2006 by Dolf
Vatjan Posted May 5, 2006 Posted May 5, 2006 Yes we have indeed slowed down a little have we not.Well it was to be expected, since this was the first place we could share information we just raced through all questions and answers we had on hand.Many questions have been answered, many remain, but these are the hard ones, of course.Some might even need the help of the Mongolian government to be resolved, others are about items so seldomly seen or so prohibitively expensive that thourough investigation and research, are hard.Anyway, I'm cooking up a few new ideas for new threads, but I have little time recently, and resizing all those pix demands just that, ... but soon
Ed_Haynes Posted May 5, 2006 Posted May 5, 2006 Yes we have indeed slowed down a little have we not.Well it was to be expected, since this was the first place we could share information we just raced through all questions and answers we had on hand.Many questions have been answered, many remain, but these are the hard ones, of course.Some might even need the help of the Mongolian government to be resolved, others are about items so seldomly seen or so prohibitively expensive that thourough investigation and research, are hard.Anyway, I'm cooking up a few new ideas for new threads, but I have little time recently, and resizing all those pix demands just that, ... but soon I have been struggling with the various aimag badges . . . grrrrr.
Stogieman Posted May 5, 2006 Author Posted May 5, 2006 We watchers are plentiful, but having nothing really significant to add..... If I post oos & ahhs it apparently irritates my (Truly) Evil Twin? who is still gnashing his teeth over my slightly larger post count.The thing I guess I'm waiting/hoping for is someone who can actually read the Uigar script to come forward, join us and enlighten us all!!
Dolf Posted May 5, 2006 Posted May 5, 2006 (edited) ............................................................................................................................................................The thing I guess I'm waiting/hoping for is someone who can actually read the Uigar script to come forward, join us and enlighten us all!!We DO have (for about a month now) one member that can do it... amazingly he just never posted yet despite my requests... Hope he will find the time and will one of these days... Dolf Edited May 5, 2006 by Dolf
Ed_Haynes Posted June 30, 2006 Posted June 30, 2006 (edited) While in UB, I saw -- but was unable to purchase -- a very late document for this award, one from 1963 (!?). What is even more interesting is that it was in Cyrillic, and I was able to get a generic translation of the text from one of our UB friends.The handwritten note inside the front cover read:"Since Partisan [name] passed away, his partisan booklet is given as an inheritance to his wife [name]."And the text:"[date]MONGOLIAN PEOPLE'S REPUBLICPARTISAN COMMITTEEOn [date] the recipient of this booklet [name], born in [place], is recognised as an active particpant in the Sukhbaatar partisan movement [?] in 1921 in the fight for the independence of the Mongolia People's Republic against foreign intervention and the feudalists.For the honor of being a partisan this booklet is given with other priviliges.State Khurall, head of partisan committee, [name]Mongolian People's Republic 1921 Partisan Rule1. The partisan's identification booklet will only be given to a participant in the 1921 partisan movement from a State Khural partisan's committee.2. To prove participation in active partisan combat and in order to receive the booklet the partisan must submit proof of actually having been a partisan by providing documentary material or testimony by at least three people with whom he fought during the partisan struggle.3. The partisan's booklet must have a photo ID and should be only for personal use.Privileges of Partisan1. If the partisan loses the ability to work when he gets old and does not have a caretaker, the government will be responsible to provide a pension.2. On request of the partisan he may present a request for the pension to the residential district authorities and from them to the State Khural.3. A partisan who does not receive a pension from government who experiences a sudden emergency will be able to receive a one-time payment of 600-1200 Tugrics.4. Partisans residing in public apartments will have a 50% discount on monthly rent.5. Partisans who are moving from the city to the countryside or from the countryside to the city will have the privilege of free transportation once a year; public transport in the city will also be free.6. Partisans will be excused government tax.7. After the death of the partisan his family will have the privilege to apply for help from the government.8. Partisans owning livestock will have a 20% reduction on livestock taxes.9. Partisans will be served in expedited order in shops, hospitals, and public offices."Interesting?? Edited June 30, 2006 by Ed_Haynes
Vatjan Posted June 30, 2006 Posted June 30, 2006 I think "interesting" is probably THE understatement of the year.
Guest Rick Research Posted June 30, 2006 Posted June 30, 2006 I like the provision of actual, useful, TANGIBLE benefits to awards--a concept which should be expanded to our part of the world.
Stogieman Posted June 30, 2006 Author Posted June 30, 2006 So, in the older style booklet... the page after page of Uigar script boils down to this? Very interesting and real benefits to these men who helped their country at a critical period in history!
Ed_Haynes Posted June 30, 2006 Posted June 30, 2006 Not sure how different the older book is. Translation has been requested.
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