NavyFCO Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Although this isn't "imperial" technically, those on this forum may well have better appreciation for it than lumping it in with the general "international" militaria section, and it fits better in here than in the Communist section. This is the command flag of the White Northwestern Front, specifically for the troops under the command of Colonel Prince Pavel Bermondt-Avalov. Prince Bermondt-Avalov was classified as an "adventurer" who fought both in the south and in the north on the side of the Whites during the Civil War. His forces counted a reported 50,000 men in their ranks. However, the majority of his officers and many of the men were German Freikorps actually under the direction of German General Count Rudiger von der Goltz. Bermondt-Avalov was most famed for his flamboyant and outrageous behavior both as a supposed representative of General Denekin with the forces of Ataman Skoropadsky in the Ukraine, and then after the fall of the latter and a trip into Germany assembling forces, he reappeared in the Baltic and joined the Northwestern Front under General Iudenich. The most famous operation of Bermondt-Avalov's forces was the sacking of Riga, Latvia and the reign of terror that ensued until they were defeated and thrown out of the city on November 10, 1919. That effectively ended the White military command of Prince Bermondt-Avalov as his force ceased to exist. This is one of the "crown jewels" of my collection. Thanks for letting me share it with you!Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyFCO Posted January 2, 2006 Author Share Posted January 2, 2006 And the reverse... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeCL Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Great Historial piece Dave,I really like the White Russian/Civil war pieces.. Thanks for posting it George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theodor Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 This is really a great and rare piece!!! Thank you for showing to us!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Hi David, beautiful piece of history........ a true keeper! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeCL Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 Hi Dave,Is the crest on either side stiched?Please post closeups...Great to see originals.. Thanks again for posting it..George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyFCO Posted January 6, 2006 Author Share Posted January 6, 2006 Ask and thou shalt receive... Here's a close up of the front... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyFCO Posted January 6, 2006 Author Share Posted January 6, 2006 And the reverse... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeCL Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 (edited) Thanks for the close ups..Looks Great! Lots of work at a trying time. George Edited January 6, 2006 by georgecl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuliganRS Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Super!But you already know that!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buellmeister Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 It looks like the Tsarina had some influence on the on design on the back.Fantasic flag!!!!Joel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GerritJ9 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 The colours are faded, but they seem to be black, red and gold which were the colours of the Weimar republic. Perhaps indicating some form of official German Government support?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 And what about the Russia flag colours ?Dave, a really nice flag; an historical symbol!!!! Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GerritJ9 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Imperial Russia's colours were white, blue and red, as are the Russian Federation's. Tsar Peter the Great slightly modified the Dutch flag to arrive at Russia's. And the colours in the flag bear no resemblance to white, blue and red methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 (...) And the colours in the flag bear no resemblance to white, blue and red methinks.That's how I see them , but maybe am I wrong ? Let's Dave arbitrate...Cheers.Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 What a nice white flag. (Was that a pun?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyFCO Posted April 25, 2006 Author Share Posted April 25, 2006 (edited) That's how I see them , but maybe am I wrong ? Let's Dave arbitrate...Cheers.Ch.Let's try on the colors of black, yellow and white for size? Those were the original colors of this flag, and the colors that several White units fought under.Check out this link and note the colors of the "civil ensign" that flew until 1883... rather familiar? http://www.vdiest.nl/Asia/russia.htmDave Edited April 25, 2006 by NavyFCO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete A Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 Black, orangish-yellow, and white were the colors of the Romanov Family. That combination was also used in the ribbons for the 1913 Romanov Tercentenary medal and the medal for suppression of Polish Rebellion of 1863-64.Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mossy Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 The colours, orange and black, were also used on the St George cross and later the Soviet Order of glory and ww2 victory medal if i remember correctly.Sam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 Let's try on the colors of black, yellow and white for size? Those were the original colors of this flag, and the colors that several White units fought under.Check out this link and note the colors of the "civil ensign" that flew until 1883... rather familiar? http://www.vdiest.nl/Asia/russia.htmDaveThanks Dave, I'm corrected. Cheers.Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 The colours, orange and black, were also used on the St George cross and later the Soviet Order of glory and ww2 victory medal if i remember correctly.Sam.Sam, you remember well .Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 Or, for imperial, "White", and other Russian flags, try the Mother of All Sites at:http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/ru_emp.htmland, especially,http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/ru-1920.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 This is the best piece of Russian History I have seen in a very long time! Thank you for sharing your flag with us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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