claudio2574 Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 Hello everybody. I'm proposing not the medal itself, which is the well known Sacchini's version with its envelope, but the temporary authorization to use the medal. This document is not very common, since it was always changed with the official diploma as soon as possible. It is just a small piece of paper, dated 1928 from Perugia in this case.
macchianera72 Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 Hello, I show two peculiarities 1) a second type of landing victory ... 2) a modified landing victory medal
macchianera72 Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 Hello Gentlemen, Lorioli Type (short signature) with different suspension device: "angular staffa" The "staffa" does not seem to have traces of welding Anyone knows other Italian Victory Medals with this suspension device? Thank's Macchianera72
macchianera72 Posted December 11, 2016 Posted December 11, 2016 Hello Gentlemen, The Italian Victory medal unofficial type 3 is very rare... I know only two collectors in Italy who have it, one of this medal is in bronze, the other in white metal, These medals have the "staffa" as a suspension device... The medal in my photo is the one mentioned by Laslo on page 57 (note 18) "The unofficial type 3 obverse design also apears on a Belgian medal of the period. ..." The reverse is blank The suspension device is a ball The ribbon is the same described by Laslo (note 18) and it is the only medal I've seen of this type. Can we consider this medal like "Italian unofficial type 3-A ?
davidck Posted January 14, 2017 Posted January 14, 2017 After much hunting, I completed my collection of the three variants of Lorioli's Italian medal.
RobW Posted January 15, 2017 Posted January 15, 2017 Hello David, Don't forget to try and obtain the variety that doesn't have a makers name. It is listed as the official type 4. It is harder to obtain than the other three but is out there in the marketplace. Regards, Rob
oliver860 Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 On 14.01.2017 at 22:29, davidck said: После долгих охоты, я закончил свою коллекцию из трех вариантов итальянской медали Lorioli в. Hello! 2 and 3 photos are the same! Yours faithfully!
RobW Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 On 11/14/2016 at 01:10, claudio2574 said: Hello everybody. I'm proposing not the medal itself, which is the well known Sacchini's version with its envelope, but the temporary authorization to use the medal. This document is not very common, since it was always changed with the official diploma as soon as possible. It is just a small piece of paper, dated 1928 from Perugia in this case. Hello Claudio, I have also seen these initial victory medal authorisation documents glued onto the corresponding diploma for the Italian War Medal 1915-1918 (Medaglia Dell Guerra 1915-1918). There is, as you have suggested, great variety in these authorisation documents. Regards, Rob
macchianera72 Posted December 2, 2017 Posted December 2, 2017 On 14/1/2017 at 20:29, davidck said: After much hunting, I completed my collection of the three variants of Lorioli's Italian medal. Italian VIC Lorioli types are four... ;-)
davidck Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 On 12/2/2017 at 13:20, macchianera72 said: Italian VIC Lorioli types are four... ;-) I was only aware of three. Can someone post a comparison of the four types?
RobW Posted February 18, 2018 Posted February 18, 2018 On 1/21/2018 at 04:03, davidck said: I was only aware of three. Can someone post a comparison of the four types? Hello David, As far as a comparison picture is concerned, if you go back through this particular thread there are numerous pics of all the 4 common varieties. A specific composite picture is at post #15 with a close-up of the two different F.M. Lorioli-Castelli varieties at post #19. I have stopped posting my collection but there are numerous other illustrations in this thread which show the level of detail and differences between the varieties which can help you. Here is a pic of the official 'type 4' (This is not in my collection). Regards, Rob
davidck Posted February 18, 2018 Posted February 18, 2018 Thanks Rob, I actually do have an example of the Type 4, and three variants of the Lorioli variety. Macchianera seemed to indicate there was a 4th Lorioli variant, which I was unaware of.
Broletariat Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 Hello all, I just joined the forums and I was going to show off my most recent find. It just came in the mail today. I'm running into error message with the heading, "-200".
Broletariat Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 And I got it to work. I'm pretty sure it's a type 1.
macchianera72 Posted May 6, 2018 Posted May 6, 2018 On 18/02/2018 at 17:53, davidck said: Thanks Rob, I actually do have an example of the Type 4, and three variants of the Lorioli variety. Macchianera seemed to indicate there was a 4th Lorioli variant, which I was unaware of. yes the Lorioli's variants are four; Type 4 without signature is another medal
Bilco Posted May 7, 2018 Posted May 7, 2018 Hi macchianera72 - if there is no signature (by which I guess you mean the manufacturer's name) how do we know it is by Lorioli & Castelli? I have one, but always understood that the manufacturer is unknown. Bill
macchianera72 Posted May 7, 2018 Posted May 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Bilco said: Hi macchianera72 - if there is no signature (by which I guess you mean the manufacturer's name) how do we know it is by Lorioli & Castelli? I have one, but always understood that the manufacturer is unknown. Bill Hi Bill, There are 4 different Lorioli & Castelli models with the signature. For your medal without signature, please send me some pictures, I hope I can identify them...
macchianera72 Posted May 8, 2018 Posted May 8, 2018 Bill, post also the reverse please, Macchianera72
Bilco Posted May 8, 2018 Posted May 8, 2018 (edited) Herewith ... OK - I get it - no VILLA! And no dots!! Bill Edited May 8, 2018 by Bilco add terxt
lambert Posted July 18, 2018 Posted July 18, 2018 On 11/12/2016 at 15:17, macchianera72 said: Hello Gentlemen, The Italian Victory medal unofficial type 3 is very rare... I know only two collectors in Italy who have it, one of this medal is in bronze, the other in white metal, These medals have the "staffa" as a suspension device... The medal in my photo is the one mentioned by Laslo on page 57 (note 18) "The unofficial type 3 obverse design also apears on a Belgian medal of the period. ..." The reverse is blank The suspension device is a ball The ribbon is the same described by Laslo (note 18) and it is the only medal I've seen of this type. Can we consider this medal like "Italian unofficial type 3-A ? its variety does not have the back of the medal, I got a picture of this example and the illustration of a book showing the variations of the Italian VIC. Lambert
graham Posted July 14, 2019 Posted July 14, 2019 Thanks for all the information in this thread. Below are my three Italian Victory medals: - Firstly - EMILIO SACCHINI Second - S. JOHNSON Lastly F.M. LORIOLI & CASTELLI I believe them all to be Official medals.
macchianera72 Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 Sure! they are official and original italian medals, but there are other models of italians official medals
oliver860 Posted April 29, 2021 Posted April 29, 2021 Hi friends! My purchase! Silver plated bronze. Diameter 36.1 mm, thickness 2.0 mm Yours faithfully!
Maraiuta Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 hello, I would like to ask you why the suspenders of this mignon medal is different from the others. Is it a variant or a test? thanks, Luigi
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