Bulgaria Bulgarian Order of St Alexander -Two Variatians?

[Igor Ostapenko]

In russian museum - strange order of. St. Alexander with swords, for neck . 
 

any ideas about maker ? 

[Graf]

Hi Igor

I cannot see any strange

It is 2nd/3rd Class First Emission  1881-1886 Russian made with the correct swords

It look like it was re -enameled or at least some of the enamel repaired.

I can see some marks on the ring connecting the cross with the ribbon loop

I is a pity you do not have an image on the reverse Most of them have their maker's marks on the reverse of the crowns arms/pendalia

 

[Igor Ostapenko]

I have only pictures of averse …

[Igor Ostapenko]

star and cross of order St. Alexander 2nd class from Kretly now for sale ( Drouot ) 

[Graf]

Hi Igor,

It is a pity that you have only the front of the cross otherwise we can have more clues.

This Kretly Set looks funny  The Cross and the Stars do not look to match in time

Cross is the Princely Model while the Star is the Kings model

Unless  they were awarded as they are in some transitional period we can speculate that they are joined together at later time

 

[Graf]

Hi Igor,

 

I managed to track the Set on the Auction site

It is reasonable starting price

I will not bid on it.

At the moment I am having a rest from collecting till the world situation is getting more normal ...if at all

Like the Russians say :

 Nu Poziviom i Uvidim

 

Cheers

[new world]

On 05/12/2021 at 13:27, Igor Ostapenko said:

star and cross of order St. Alexander 2nd class from Kretly now for sale ( Drouot ) 

 

Color of the star seems strange to me, it looks like it was made from brass. Also plating on the cross is way too bright.

Perhaps the it's because the quality of their photos?

[Graf]

Hi New World,

It is strange indeed.

I looked the photos of the other items of this Auction they look different.

Perhaps, they used photos submitted by the persons who sell the items, thus the different quality

 

[new world]

On 05/12/2021 at 13:27, Igor Ostapenko said:

star and cross of order St. Alexander 2nd class from Kretly now for sale ( Drouot ) 

Sold for 2800 Euros + 27% auction premium

[Graf]

I am not surprised

The Star of the Grand Cross I posted earlier was sold for 1650 Euro plus 27% premium

Could have gone more if i did not stop bidding Sadly i missed it.

 

[Graf]

Just came across this nice 5th class Not in mine collection

[Graf]

[Igor Ostapenko]

On 16/08/2023 at 04:33, Graf said:

«… Bulgaria, Kingdom, Order of St. Alexander, Knight’s breast badge, 39mm, silver and enamel, without crown or swords, unmarked, minor enamel damage, nearly very fine»

and another , from HH 

«… Kreuz 4. Klasse, Silber vergoldet und emailliert, mit Originalband Siehe Todor Petrov, "Bulgarian Orders and Medals", S. 314, wona die 4. Klasse an 34 Bulgaren und 124 Ausländer verliehen wurde


Gewicht 22.2 g (mit Band), Maße 46,8 x 41 mm.»

[Graf]

1 hour ago, Igor Ostapenko said:

«… Bulgaria, Kingdom, Order of St. Alexander, Knight’s breast badge, 39mm, silver and enamel, without crown or swords, unmarked, minor enamel damage, nearly very fine»

and another , from HH 

«… Kreuz 4. Klasse, Silber vergoldet und emailliert, mit Originalband Siehe Todor Petrov, "Bulgarian Orders and Medals", S. 314, wona die 4. Klasse an 34 Bulgaren und 124 Ausländer verliehen wurde


Gewicht 22.2 g (mit Band), Maße 46,8 x 41 mm.»

Hi Igor it is nice cross I missed HH Auction. There were very interesting items. However some Bravery Order Sets looked very questionable to me

 

regards

[Graf]

French box You can see the Crown  looks made of metal The Order is nice however is not in the correct box

 

Sadly the Seller did not want to separate the group..I missed the box

Edited August 17, 2023 by Graf

[Igor Ostapenko]

On 18/08/2023 at 00:59, Graf said:

French box You can see the Crown  looks made of metal The Order is nice however is not in the correct box

 

Sadly the Seller did not want to separate the group..I missed the box

Very, very rare box 👍

[Graf]

On 19/08/2023 at 16:28, Igor Ostapenko said:

Very, very rare box 👍

Yes it is nice sadly gone