Ed_Haynes Posted January 28, 2007 Author Posted January 28, 2007 JC's post prompts me to add a document for a Type 2.2 (unnumbered) medal. This suggests these unnumbered pieces are not mere escapees as some had thought.Exterior.
Ed_Haynes Posted January 28, 2007 Author Posted January 28, 2007 And the interior, dated 28 April 1989.
gor Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 One more .Does is it exists first type or not? http://img252.imageshack.us/my.php?image=40058082cv1.jpghttp://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=16602197ph8.jpg
Ed_Haynes Posted February 15, 2007 Author Posted February 15, 2007 Yes, Gor (good to see you here, cheers!). There is a lot of extra variability here. Bat will (we hope) be expanding on this in an anticipated SECOND EDITION. There are, however, some fakes, some dangerous, some not, of this particular award.
Bob Posted March 4, 2007 Posted March 4, 2007 Here's one that I recently bought. Nice box and (corresponding?) booklet. The date seems out of whack though.
Ed_Haynes Posted March 4, 2007 Author Posted March 4, 2007 Nice one, I think. But the date/number relationship does raise questions.
fjcp Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 (edited) An interesting one that recently sold on Ebay for about $600.....New high for a type 1.2 I believe.... ( or is that a type 1.3???)JC Edited April 7, 2007 by fjcp
Ed_Haynes Posted April 7, 2007 Author Posted April 7, 2007 This is indeed an odd one, and one I'd be careful with. The number is at the super-high end of the "cross" variety (our working type 1.3), but it sure doesn't look enameled to me (seems pretty surely a type 1.1). The numbering style seems strange too.This medal is being faked and this may well be one of those?
Stogieman Posted April 7, 2007 Posted April 7, 2007 I agree with Ed, does not look like enamel on there. But the patina, if chemically applied, is very, very well done....Note the cut suspension ring that's not quite lined up as well!
Ed_Haynes Posted April 7, 2007 Author Posted April 7, 2007 The first variety was painted rather than enameled, and that variety is heavily faked.
Bob Posted June 24, 2008 Posted June 24, 2008 (edited) to add to the confusion :speechless: Edited June 24, 2008 by Bob
Ed_Haynes Posted June 25, 2008 Author Posted June 25, 2008 Ohhhhhhhhhhh. I don't much like the looks of that one. I know some fakes exist. Have we just seen one?
Bob Posted June 25, 2008 Posted June 25, 2008 Ohhhhhhhhhhh. I don't much like the looks of that one. I know some fakes exist. Have we just seen one?Please elaborate - just got this one from the January Markov auction
Ed_Haynes Posted June 25, 2008 Author Posted June 25, 2008 Please elaborate - just got this one from the January Markov auctionShall do so, but my specimens are currently half a world away and unavailable for comparison. As soon as possible. How is the "feel" of the medal. Sometimes hard to tell from scans.
Bob Posted June 25, 2008 Posted June 25, 2008 It "felt" good - incl. details for instance on front top near ring.It's the number at reverse that made me puzzle - but the "1" looks very close to one I've seen elsewhereWill post weights after the weekendI suspect that this medal requires careful review as some people say fakes, but it could also be an issue of multiple variations - I'm not convinced yet re fakes
Ed_Haynes Posted July 5, 2008 Author Posted July 5, 2008 Just an update:Type 1.1 (?Cross? obverse, silver painted) - Low = 10; High = 76Type 1.2 (?Cross? obverse, silver enameled, green leaves) - Low = 13; High = ??Type 1.3 (?Cross? obverse, silver enameled) - Low = 249; High = 381Type 2.1 (red obverse, silver numbered) - Low = 1027; High = 1232Type 2.2 (red obverse, silver unnumbered, escapee?) Also reminds me I get mine in hand.
Bob Posted July 5, 2008 Posted July 5, 2008 It "felt" good - incl. details for instance on front top near ring.It's the number at reverse that made me puzzle - but the "1" looks very close to one I've seen elsewhereWill post weights after the weekendI suspect that this medal requires careful review as some people say fakes, but it could also be an issue of multiple variations - I'm not convinced yet re fakes34.5 gr24.0 gr (excl. suspension)Unfortunately don't have my other's handy for comparison weighing
Bob Posted March 3, 2009 Posted March 3, 2009 There's a nr 258 for sale on ebay for a whopping 950 USD (somebody's selling some major pieces of a collection)Reminds me to get mine out of the vault for weighing in a few days so we can do some comparison and hopefully establish some weight ranges
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