Austria-Hungary Imperial Austrian Awards

[Stogieman]

A Leopold in real gold is a very special piece. I've only ever had one. Cased. It was spectacular.....

[Guest Lars K]

I would like to add a few FJ orders. First the knight with small decoration for Commander.

[Guest Lars K]

Second; the Commader/ Grand Cross badge.

[Guest Lars K]

Third; The Grand Cross with original Sash.

[Guest Lars K]

And finally a rather rare ex. of the pre- 1872 Grand Cross Breast Star.

All 4 decorations are made by Vinc.Mayer's.S?hne in Wien

Kr

Lars K

[Guest Lars K]

reverse

[notned]

Lars, these are simply beautiful!

Such detail!

Magnificent!

thanks for showing!

Cheers

Paul

[Daniel Murphy]

Warlord,

Yours is the only A-H federation document I have seen......besides mine. I looks paltry after what was just posted but here is a document grouping to Josef Brunner.

Dan Murphy

[Daniel Murphy]

Inside. This document is almost exactly one month later than Warlord's and about 100 numbers higher. Gives us a good idea of how many aviators were being trained a month.

[Daniel Murphy]

Here is his certificate from the A-H army which lists him as commander of Flik 36 (an observation unit). Notice it was signed by the adjutant and "des Kmdtr" is scratched out.

Edited April 19, 2006 by Daniel Murphy

[Daniel Murphy]

And the back with photo and stamp.

[Daniel Murphy]

Here is his interwar Austrian army rail pass issued in 1934.

[Daniel Murphy]

His rank is listed as Major from 1934 and the pass has the stamps up to and including 1938.

[Daniel Murphy]

I got this group with his uniform from George Petersen way back in the day. Here is a link to his service history.

Josef Brunner

Edited April 19, 2006 by Daniel Murphy

[Stogieman]

Hi Daniel, a very nice and historical group you have there!!!

[Kev in Deva]

Hallo Gentlemen

looking through this thread set me to thinking (dangerous I know ) with regards a Emperor Franz-Josef "DER TAPFERKEIT" silver medal in my collection, it has the word "BRONZE" impressed into the rim at about the one o'clock position, and weighs 11 gram, it measures: 31mm from side to side.

Maker Marked: "TAUTENHAYN."

I cannot remember reading about this particular variant anywhere on the forum, is it at all common?, do any members have one in their collection?.

Please see pictures.

Kevin in Deva.

Edited October 24, 2006 by Kev in Deva

[Kev in Deva]

The stamping on the rim, and the rear of the medal.

Kevin in Deva.

[hunyadi]

Though others may have more concrete information - I have hardly seen the "Bronze" stamp on the FJ period medals. However the Karl era and the post war all seem to have them. I think there was a law that required the makers to state what the base medal was made of somewehre near the end of the war. Perhaps these few pieces that I have observed are inter-war re-strikes. But that is mostly just specualtion.

[Kev in Deva]

Dear Gentlemen

I also have the large version of the Emperor Franz-Josef "DER TAPFERKEIT" Medal.

Weight: 25 Gram.

Size: 41mm from side to side and 46mm from the bottom to the top of the ribbon Ose connecting ring.

Material: Non-magnetic, brass silver plated?? it has suffered the indignity of being scratched in various places front and back, to see if its real silver.

Any information would be appreciated.

Thank you Kevin in Deva

[Kev in Deva]

The Rear.

Kevin in Deva

[hunyadi]

Hi Kevin -

IMHO both are original pieces - I just feel from my observation experience that the BRONZE and BRONZ (hungarian version) marked ones are from the 1920's as Horthy's Government had a requirement that all plated medals be stamped with an indication of the base medal (except for Zinc it seems). The Large Silver Bravery Medal will probably have some sort of makers mark around the 11 or 1 o'clock position. Mostly I see a small encirceld "A". Another interesting factor that collectors seem to notice is the thin design of the medal as well. The ring on your Large Bravery has probably been replaced as such a small ring would dangle out of the bottom of the ribbon - not a tradition of the A-H armies. Here is mine for reference

Edited October 25, 2006 by hunyadi

[hunyadi]

and the makers mark

[Kev in Deva]

Hallo hunyadi

Many thanks for your response, yours is a great example, I have looked very carefully on both sides of the ribbon ring mount, at the 11 o'clock & 1 o'clock positions, and to tell the truth there are so many scratches and dings its impossible to tell if there ever was a mark, however even with some of the detail being worn down I doubt if the maker name was erased.

I do notice however there is no maker name on the front of mine under the bust of Emperor Franz-Josef.

So I think for the moment it will have to remain an unknown variant

Kevin in Deva

Edited October 25, 2006 by Kev in Deva

[hunyadi]

The name under FJ is not a maker but rather the court sculptor who sculpted the bust of FJ or Karl. With FJ of course there were several as he outlived them or they simply fell from grace in the court. Though you have the benefit of holding it in your hand - to me it looks like the name was there - just someone rubbed it a bit too much

I wonder about this spot?

[gregM]

I need some help reading some Austrian ribbons. Can someone please point

me in a directon to find out what I have?

Thanks very much,

Greg