Glenn J Posted July 11, 2005 Posted July 11, 2005 Hi,k.k Oberleutnant Otmar Wolfan whose parent regiment was k.k. Reitendes Sch?tzenregiment Nr. 2The 1918 k.k. Landwehr Rangliste shows him as the holder of both a Silver and Bronze Military Merit Medal (Signum Laudis).Oberleutnant: 1 May 1917Even the then Austro-Hungarian authorities could not get the nomenclature right. Wolfan was not a k.u.k. Oberleutnant but a k.k. Oberleutnant - a member of the Austrian Landwehr and not the common army RegardsGlenn
Guest Rick Research Posted July 11, 2005 Posted July 11, 2005 Also, his photo in the ID is printed mirror image reversed!
Glenn J Posted July 12, 2005 Posted July 12, 2005 See this Russian website for an illustration of Wolfan's Aviatik-Berg D.I/Dr.I as a pilot in Flieger-Kompagnie 56J in Italy in 1918:wings paletteRegardsGlenn
Hendrik Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 (edited) ... and adding a few more. Starting off with the War Cross for Civil Merit, 3rd class. Some nice but tiny hallmarks on both the needle and the reverse. Can't identify them all but there seems to be a couple of "FR" and "A" marks. I have no idea what those stand for.[attachmentid=22298] [attachmentid=22299] [attachmentid=22300] Edited January 10, 2006 by Hendrik
Hendrik Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 Military Merit Medal (Signum Laudis), Karl I type, with bars for subsequent 2nd and 3rd awards.[attachmentid=22301] [attachmentid=22302]
Hendrik Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 Military Merit Medal (Signum Laudis), Franz-Joseph type, with just the one bar for a subsequent 2nd award.[attachmentid=22303] [attachmentid=22304]
Hendrik Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 Bravery Medal, Franz-Joseph type ...[attachmentid=22305] [attachmentid=22306]
Hendrik Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 Bravery Medal, Karl I type ...[attachmentid=22308] [attachmentid=22309]
Hendrik Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 Iron Cross of Merit ...[attachmentid=22310] [attachmentid=22311]
Hendrik Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 And a couple of Red Cross ones as used in WWI ...[attachmentid=22312] [attachmentid=22313]
Hendrik Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 Always nice, a Franz-Joseph Order ...[attachmentid=22314] [attachmentid=22315]
Hendrik Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 The familiar Karl's Troop Cross ...[attachmentid=22316] [attachmentid=22317]
Hendrik Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 Medal for the Wounded on the ribbon for twice nothing getting out of the adversary's way quickly enough ...[attachmentid=22318] [attachmentid=22319]
Hendrik Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 and finally, not Austria-Hungary but Austrian Republic : the Tirol Commemorative War Medal.[attachmentid=22320] [attachmentid=22321]
Josef Rietveld Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 Hi hendrik, nice items.The bars for subsequent awards for bravery-medals and Military Merit Medals (Signum Laudis) were made of Silver. The bars for officers bravery-medals and Signum Laudis were normally made of silver (hallmarks), the bars for the non-officers were silver-plated or made of silvercolured material.Military Merit Crosses and the orders of the iron crown IIIrd class and the Leopolds Knights cross had always GOLD Bars (gold plated).@Hendrik if swords were awarded the have been fixed directly on the bar. so the Merit Medal you showed is a kind of forgers. someone took the double bar and put it on aribbon with swords. the correct bar with swords is shown on the picture i add.Golden Bars were also possible for the Goldenes Verdienstkreuz mit Krone (GVKrmK) . But ONLY for this Rank. If a NCO or medic or officer received an Golden Verdienstkreuz did action that would bring a second award of the GVKrmK he was awarded the crown. Same with Silbernes Verdienstkreuz or Silbernes Verdienstkreuz mit der Krone.regardsHaynauPS: the marks on the kriegskreuz f?r zivilverdienste stand IMHO for A = Hauptm?nzamt, FR = Rothe
Hendrik Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 The bars for officers bravery-medals and Signum Laudis were normally made of silver (hallmarks), the bars for the non-officers were silver-plated or made of silvercolured material.if swords were awarded the have been fixed directly on the bar. the marks on the kriegskreuz f?r zivilverdienste stand IMHO for A = Hauptm?nzamt, FR = Rothe Many thanks for your interesting remarks !!! I went and checked those bars for hallmarks but there were any, so they would have been NCO's medals. And I'm happy to know the meaning of those hallmarks now I was under the impression that bars with the crossed swords fixed on the bar were only used for the Military Merit Cross (as in your picture) and plain bars for the other awards with a possible swords device on the ribbon. From your input I gather that is incorrect. Thanks for setting me straight on that ! Do I understand it correctly then that the Bravery Medal was never awarded with crossed swords (as they were awarded for bravery in action, there would have been no real need for them) ?
Josef Rietveld Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 Many thanks for your interesting remarks !!! ....Do I understand it correctly then that the Bravery Medal was never awarded with crossed swords (as they were awarded for bravery in action, there would have been no real need for them) ?Exactly that was the reason. haynau
Stogieman Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 Yes, no swords for bravery medals. Interesting though that the Signum Laudis, even when on a "war ribbon" will often have swords mounted on the ribbon. I have even seen swords mounted through repeat bars, all on the "war ribbon". This oddity is present in both full-sized trifolds and on ribbon bar mini devices!
Josef Rietveld Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 Yes, no swords for bravery medals. Interesting though that the Signum Laudis, even when on a "war ribbon" will often have swords mounted on the ribbon. I have even seen swords mounted through repeat bars, all on the "war ribbon". This oddity is present in both full-sized trifolds and on ribbon bar mini devices!Dou you really think it is an oddity? For me it makes sense. all signum laudis awarded for service during wartime were on the war ribbon (kriegsband). the attached swords show in one look if the medal was awarded for service or service in frontline. same with the milit?rverdienstkreuz that was awarded with wardecoration during WW1.haynau
Hendrik Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 Thanks Gents ! Very useful information and much appreciated !
notned Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 Hello Gents,Nice Austrian offerings thanks!My only Austrian medal is this Fortitvidini medal on this bar most of you have seen befoe...RegardsPaul
Josef Rietveld Posted January 11, 2006 Posted January 11, 2006 (edited) gentlemen,some contribution to this theme.Knightscross Franz-Josefs-Orden in gilded bronze and Miniaturechain and Decoration to wear on a frockcoat or swallowtail. both hallmarked and made in 750/1000-Gold (18 carat). Markers Mark: Vincenz Mayer und S?hne. purchased in scotland.haynau Edited January 11, 2006 by haynau
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