Mike K Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 Hi,I won't add another tombak Schwerin or unmarked "Juncker" to this thread, but I'll add a couple that haven't been imaged so far.First up, an earlier zinc Schwerin with heavily plated reverse.RegardsMike KPS: George, that last one looks OK (nothing screams repro) but I don't know the maker - definitely not an unmarked Schwerin though.Obverse....
Mike K Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 Sorry for this blurry scan - I can assure you that it is not repaired, although it appears messy around the catch.Reverse...
Mike K Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 And now for something different (no apologies for the red text).Obverse....
Mike K Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 It does not appear to be one of the solid silver examples. It is quite thick and heavy. I really like the wear on the pin where is has rubbed against the uniform loop (hinge end of the pin). Still waiting to find out who the KM officer was that wore this example and which AuxCr (Thor or Michel) he served on.Reverse...
byf Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 Outstanding. As I understand it these are the the rarest of the rare. Is that the case? They are very pretty. Thanks for the posts.byf
Scott Posted September 5, 2005 Posted September 5, 2005 (edited) Reverse shot of the raised maker mark and stamped "box" that sometimes show up with this maker Edited September 5, 2005 by Scott
Mike K Posted September 6, 2005 Posted September 6, 2005 Mike, is that a Japanese produced badge?Don←Hi Don,Yes, apparently so. Still waiting for the officer's name to figure out his ship.RegardsMike
Larry Lipps Posted September 14, 2005 Posted September 14, 2005 Guys, because I still need on of these for my Kriegs badge collection, it's going to be on the top of my list at this year's MAX Show. Because all of my other badges are Schwerin marked, I'd like to try and stay with that maker. Are there any particular points I should be aware of when looking for an original badge? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Gordon Williamson Posted September 14, 2005 Author Posted September 14, 2005 Guys, because I still need on of these for my Kriegs badge collection, it's going to be on the top of my list at this year's MAX Show. Because all of my other badges are Schwerin marked, I'd like to try and stay with that maker. Are there any particular points I should be aware of when looking for an original badge? Any help would be greatly appreciated.←There are some quite well made copies of the Tombak Schwerin badge in circulation. They are a bit of a mix though as they seem to have been based more on the Junker badge but with Schwerin markings. The two makers products are very similar but if you look at the reverse, in the 11 o.clock position, there are subtle differences around the gap between the top of the sail and the inside of the wreath.Also, the fakes have far too "perfect" looking lettering to the makers mark. The lettering on the real pieces is quite delicate, the fakes much stronger.
Mike K Posted September 14, 2005 Posted September 14, 2005 Hi Larry,The form of the maker's mark (different font and even/regular size on repros) and the hinge/pin/catch assembly are where the better repros still fall short. Make sure you know the differences between genuine tombak and zinc hinge/pin/catch assemblies. Another area the repro Schwerins can fall down is poor obverse detailing of the shields on the boat. and the sixe of the roundels in the center of the shields. Also, if you're looking for a tombak version, make sure it is fire-gilded and not just gilded (as per the "Cave Creek" repros).RegardsMike K
Larry Lipps Posted September 14, 2005 Posted September 14, 2005 Guys, I appreciate the help. I'm going to print this thread an use it as my walking reference at the show. Maybe I'll have something to add in a couple of weeks.
Larry Lipps Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 Well, I only found one badge at the entire MAX I thought was real. It was a Juncker and was priced beyond belief. Needless to say, the quest continues.
Paul R Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 (edited) Larry,Just out of curiousity, how much were they asking for it? Edited October 8, 2005 by Paul Reck
Larry Lipps Posted October 8, 2005 Posted October 8, 2005 (edited) It was very nice but not worth the 2K asking price. Edited October 8, 2005 by Larry Lipps
Paul R Posted October 8, 2005 Posted October 8, 2005 I have never seen one that high before. I bet that the vendor went home with that one!!
Guest Darrell Posted November 21, 2005 Posted November 21, 2005 Well guys ... brought this little guy home with me tonight. Like the first one that Gordon posted ... an Unmarked 2 piece-riveted-Globe Juncker ACB.
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