fjcp Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 Hi all, Sorry to hijack the thread a little, but Slava1stclass gave me permission to post this here. I'm trying to get in touch with Christian Zulus urgently but no luck through PM. Is there somebody here who might be able to help? Thanks Jan
Ferdinand Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 He's quite active on Facebook, do you want me to pass something on? Outsiders can contact Facebook members too, but those messages usually dissapear deep in the caverns of Facebook's messaging system.
fjcp Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 Thank you very much. I've sent you a personal message. Jan
slava1stclass Posted January 13, 2015 Author Posted January 13, 2015 Gents, Just relisted with another price drop of $1,000.00 to an opening bid of $7,999.00. Regards, slava1stclass Gents, No takers at $7,999.00 so he's relisted - at $8,999.00 BIN. Regards, slava1stclss
slava1stclass Posted January 16, 2015 Author Posted January 16, 2015 Gents, This OGII to a Full Cavalier is currently available on the well-known auction site for a BIN price of $1,500.00. Regards, slava1stclass Gents, At least this seller is adjusting his pricing in a more realistic manner (see post #497 above). He just relisted it at $1,100.00 given it hasn't sold to date. There is something to said for market economics. Regards, slava1stclass
JapanX Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 This thread should be renamed to Full cavaliers of the Order of Glory: Present Day realities from CollectRussia.com
slava1stclass Posted January 30, 2015 Author Posted January 30, 2015 Gents, At least this seller is adjusting his pricing in a more realistic manner (see post #497 above). He just relisted it at $1,100.00 given it hasn't sold to date. There is something to said for market economics. Regards, slava1stclass Gents, Price has dropped another $100.00 to $1,000.00. Regards, slava1stclass
slava1stclass Posted March 19, 2015 Author Posted March 19, 2015 Gents, Price has dropped another $100.00 to $1,000.00. Regards, slava1stclassGents, His current BIN price has dropped to $900.00. Other than this Full Cavalier OGII, the market in the West has been absolutely bereft of any Full Cavalier offerings for many, many months. The heady days of the mid-1990s to early 2000s when Full Cavalier sets and loose Full Cavalier OGs could be found at every turn are but a memory today.Regards,slava1stclass
slava1stclass Posted March 29, 2015 Author Posted March 29, 2015 Gents, His current BIN price has dropped to $900.00. Other than this Full Cavalier OGII, the market in the West has been absolutely bereft of any Full Cavalier offerings for many, many months. The heady days of the mid-1990s to early 2000s when Full Cavalier sets and loose Full Cavalier OGs could be found at every turn are but a memory today.Regards,slava1stclass Gents, He recently slashed it another $100.00 to $800.00 BIN.Regards,slava1stclass
slava1stclass Posted April 16, 2015 Author Posted April 16, 2015 Gents, He recently slashed it another $100.00 to $800.00 BIN.Regards,slava1stclassGents, It's currently down to $700.00 BIN.Regards,slava1stclass
slava1stclass Posted April 22, 2015 Author Posted April 22, 2015 Gents, This Full Cavalier set sold in Russia in late 2011. Starting price was 460,000 rubles (slightly over $8,800.00 at today's exchange rate).Regards,slava1stclass
slava1stclass Posted May 9, 2015 Author Posted May 9, 2015 (edited) Hope this is relevant. OG group german EbayjayJan, Unfortunately, this group isn't relevant to this thread for a couple of reasons: 1) it is not a Full Cavalier-related group and 2) I question its originality. It's never a good sign when the seller doesn't include an image of the award booklet page with the awardee's name. That fact, combined with what to me appear to be a questionable OGII order as well as shaky award entries (the final two in the booklet), are enough to cause a knowledgeable collector to steer clear.Regards,slava1stclass Edited May 10, 2015 by slava1stclass
Rogi Posted May 15, 2015 Posted May 15, 2015 (edited) Jan, Unfortunately, this group isn't relevant to this thread for a couple of reasons: 1) it is not a Full Cavalier-related group and 2) I question its originality. It's never a good sign when the seller doesn't include an image of the award booklet page with the awardee's name. That fact, combined with what to me appear to be a questionable OGII order as well as shaky award entries (the final two in the booklet), are enough to cause a knowledgeable collector to steer clear.Regards,slava1stclass The awardees name/photo is on the last picture of the listing, you have to click the arrow but it is there, about 15 photos in. The recipients photo definatley doesn't appear to be "standard" issue. Edited May 15, 2015 by Rogi
slava1stclass Posted May 17, 2015 Author Posted May 17, 2015 The awardees name/photo is on the last picture of the listing, you have to click the arrow but it is there, about 15 photos in. The recipients photo definatley doesn't appear to be "standard" issue.Gents, The seller edited/updated his eBay listing - "Letzte Aktualisierung am 11. Mai. 2015 23:02:44 MESZ" adding an image of the identity page after my original post above. The identity page was not originally included.Regards,slava1stclass
slava1stclass Posted May 17, 2015 Author Posted May 17, 2015 Jan, It's never a good sign when the seller doesn't include an image of the award booklet page with the awardee's name. Regards,slava1stclass Gents, As expected, this "group" is bogus. There is not a single award entry on file for anyone bearing that name. As I suggested, not providing an image of the identity page is a bad sign. In posting an identity page image of a bogus "group" (as this seller eventually did), knowledgeable collectors can simply confirm what they suspected at the outset.Regards,slava1stclass
slava1stclass Posted June 24, 2015 Author Posted June 24, 2015 Gents, This very nice early OGII to a Full Cavalier (he was later KIA before his OGI was approved) was recently on the market for $750.00.Regards,slava1stclass
slava1stclass Posted August 23, 2015 Author Posted August 23, 2015 Gents, An outstanding Category 1 Full Cavalier set currently available at auction. Opening bid is $17,350.00. It's been quite some time since a set this nice has hit the market.Regards,slava1stclass
slava1stclass Posted October 1, 2015 Author Posted October 1, 2015 Gents, Currently available at the well-known NYC-area dealer. Asking price is $10,500.00. It is the first Full Cavalier-related OGI he's had for sale in well over a year. This OGI was issued in March 1956 to replace an erroneous wartime double OGIII award.Regards,slava1stclass
slava1stclass Posted October 2, 2015 Author Posted October 2, 2015 Gents,This Category 1 Full Cavalier set to Ivan Tikhonovich Rubezhniy sold at auction in the U.S. on July 17th, 2014. Sale price was $7,000.00. What is especially cool about this set is the fact the OGIII and OGI serial numbers match - legitimately so. Go figure the odds on that! Regards, slava1stclassGents, Since my original post last year, this Category 1 Full Cavalier set made its way back east across the big pond. It will be available via an online auction from 7-10 October 2015 out of an auction house based in Riga, Latvia. It is unclear what the opening bid is set at. A current image is attached.Regards,slava1stclass
USSR Posted October 10, 2015 Posted October 10, 2015 Gents, Since my original post last year, this Category 1 Full Cavalier set made its way back east across the big pond. It will be available via an online auction from 7-10 October 2015 out of an auction house based in Riga, Latvia. It is unclear what the opening bid is set at. A current image is attached.Regards,slava1stclass Well, it was a close call but I didn't manage to buy this set. In the end it went for $11,135+10%=apx $12,200! Should have bought it at the previous US auction...
slava1stclass Posted October 10, 2015 Author Posted October 10, 2015 Well, it was a close call but I didn't manage to buy this set. In the end it went for $11,135+10%=apx $12,200! Should have bought it at the previous US auction...USSR, Thank you for the post-auction wrap up. All things considered (see below), that seems like a reasonable price. One thing I overlooked/neglected to mention is that while the OGIII's serial number is identical to the OGI's - purely coincidence - the OGIII itself is likely a piece whose original serial number was eradicated and the 2907 serial number added in order to complete the set. It is unclear whether the Full Cavalier himself did this while still alive or whether it was done once the set changed hands. In any event, the Full Cavalier booklet, OGI and OGII are unaltered originals to this set.Regards,slava1stclass
USSR Posted October 10, 2015 Posted October 10, 2015 Well, I had my doubts as well about the 3rd class but since you are reconfirming my suspicions, I am glad (or better put: a bit less disappointed) about not 'winning' the auction ;-)
slava1stclass Posted November 4, 2015 Author Posted November 4, 2015 Gents, Recent months have seen more Full Cavalier-related decorations continue to emerge. Currently available at the well-known NYC-area dealer. Asking price is $10,400.00. Regards, slava1stclass
slava1stclass Posted November 21, 2015 Author Posted November 21, 2015 Gents, An OGII to a Full Cavalier which fellow forum member Ferdinand is currently offering on the well-known auction site. Regards, slava1stclass
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