Paul R Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 I just picked up this 1970s-1980s medal bar! Although it is not named, it is a really cool combination of awards for under 20 dollars. I hope that you all like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wood Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Less tha 20 dollars, I wonder what the guy who won them did to get them, seems awfully cheap for a nicely mounted group, these are full-sized not minis?Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Looks as though this guy may have taken part in the Cuban missile crisis. That's the same set of campaign medals I got for Cuba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogi Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Sweet find Paul looks mighty fine :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Sweet find Paul looks mighty fine Indeed! almost a crime to sell groups at that price! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted November 28, 2013 Author Share Posted November 28, 2013 Thanks all. Hugh, which medals did you get for the Cuban Missile Crisis? The Navy Expeditionary Service Medal or the Armed Forces Expeditionary Service Medal? I would have figured the Armed Forces Expeditionary Service Medal to have been related to Vietnam(service in Taiwan or etc). Were you in the Navy or Coast Guard? Yeah, the price was too great to give up on, especially since it was Coast Guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muckaroon1960 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Great set of medals. Are any maker marked or numbered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted November 28, 2013 Author Share Posted November 28, 2013 I have not checked. Where will we find the markings? On the ring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muckaroon1960 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 On the rim of the medal you may find a makers mark for the likes of Simco or E H Simon (same company) or a (V) for Volupte. Also on the suspender there may be a mark or G code? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Thanks all. Hugh, which medals did you get for the Cuban Missile Crisis? The Navy Expeditionary Service Medal or the Armed Forces Expeditionary Service Medal? I would have figured the Armed Forces Expeditionary Service Medal to have been related to Vietnam(service in Taiwan or etc). Were you in the Navy or Coast Guard? Yeah, the price was too great to give up on, especially since it was Coast Guard. Believe it or not, I got all three for Cuba: Navy expeditionary, National Defense (or whatever we call that red and yellow one) and Armed Forces Expeditionary. The ship was already down in GTMO for RefTra before the President's speech, so that was Navy Expeditionary, and then they gave us Armed Forces Expeditionary for sailing in circles escorting the Marine landing force. Somehow NAtional Defense snuck in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted November 28, 2013 Author Share Posted November 28, 2013 The National Defense Service Medal was established during the Vietnam period between: January 1, 1961 – August 14, 1974. You would have been covered for your period of service. Were you Navy or Coast Guard? The Navy Expeditionary Service Medal is the only one I can see that is marked. It is the (V) for Volupte. Ironically, it is a high quality strike, whereas the others are not as well made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 (edited) Sorry, forgot to answer. I was Navy, serving in USS Robert L. Wilson (DDE - 847) in DesRon 36, Part of Task Force Bravo, an ASW task force. I think there was a period when National Defense Service wasn't awarded, because I wasn't eligible for it when I came out of the Naval Academy in June '61. People who were eligible for it in the earlier period got a star to wear on it when it was reinstated. Best, Hugh Edited November 29, 2013 by Hugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Pretty cool. I did not know they gave the Armed Forces Expeditionary medal for Cuba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
army historian Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Yes really cool group appears to be Vietnam and Cuban Missile crisis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Yes really cool group appears to be Vietnam and Cuban Missile crisis. Viet Nam? He's missing the US Viet Nam Service (yellow w/ green edges and three red center stripes and the RVN medal (green and white stripes). I seem to remember that very early in our involvement, they gave the Armed Forces Expeditionary instead of the US VN Service, but don't know the dates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyFCO Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 There's a pretty comprehensive list online on the wiki page about the actions that were awarded the AFEM: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armed_Forces_Expeditionary_Medal There are a ton of actions that could result in the Navy Expeditionary...I have yet to find a comprehensive list. Slightly off topic, I found this interesting .pdf while searching around about combat insignias: http://afehri.maxwell.af.mil/Documents/pdf/HISTORY%20OF%20COMBAT%20SERVICE%20INSIGNIAS.pdf As an side, I was also awarded both of these medals. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
army historian Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 (edited) There's a pretty comprehensive list online on the wiki page about the actions that were awarded the AFEM: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armed_Forces_Expeditionary_Medal There are a ton of actions that could result in the Navy Expeditionary...I have yet to find a comprehensive list. Slightly off topic, I found this interesting .pdf while searching around about combat insignias: http://afehri.maxwell.af.mil/Documents/pdf/HISTORY%20OF%20COMBAT%20SERVICE%20INSIGNIAS.pdf As an side, I was also awarded both of these medals. Dave The best site for the Navy Expeditionary Medal is: http://www.history.navy.mil/medals/nem.htm altho it seems to be missing campaigns after Wake. The rest are from another site: Thailand: May 16 - August 10, 1962 Cuba: January 3, 1961 - October 23, 1962 Iran, Yemen, & Indian Ocean: December 8, 1978 - June 6, 1979 Iran, Yemen, & Indian Ocean: November 21, 1979 - October 1, 1981 Lebanon: August 20, 1982 - May 31, 1983 Lebanon: June 1, 1983 to March 4, 1984* Libya: January 20 - June 27, 1986 Persian Gulf: February 1 - July 23, 1987 Monrovia, Liberia (Sharp Edge): August 5, 1990 - February 21, 1991 Rwanda (Distant Runner): April 7-18, 1994 USS Cole Operations (Determined Response): October 12 2000 to December 15, 2002 * For service in Lebanon between June 1, 1983 and March 4, 1984, the service member may choose either the Navy Expeditionary Medal (or Marine Corps Expeditionary Medal, depending on Service component) or the Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal. Edited December 11, 2013 by army historian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyFCO Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 The best site for the Navy Expeditionary Medal is: http://www.history.navy.mil/medals/nem.htm altho it seems to be missing campaigns after Wake. The rest are from another site: Thailand: May 16 - August 10, 1962Cuba: January 3, 1961 - October 23, 1962Iran, Yemen, & Indian Ocean: December 8, 1978 - June 6, 1979Iran, Yemen, & Indian Ocean: November 21, 1979 - October 1, 1981Lebanon: August 20, 1982 - May 31, 1983Lebanon: June 1, 1983 to March 4, 1984*Libya: January 20 - June 27, 1986Persian Gulf: February 1 - July 23, 1987Monrovia, Liberia (Sharp Edge): August 5, 1990 - February 21, 1991Rwanda (Distant Runner): April 7-18, 1994USS Cole Operations (Determined Response): October 12 2000 to December 15, 2002* For service in Lebanon between June 1, 1983 and March 4, 1984, the service member may choose either the Navy Expeditionary Medal (or Marine Corps Expeditionary Medal, depending on Service component) or the Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal. Unfortunately, there are still others missing from the list...I earned mine in 2009, for example, and its not on there at all... I doubt a comprehensive list will ever exist, sadly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 Less tha 20 dollars, I wonder what the guy who won them did to get them, seems awfully cheap for a nicely mounted group, these are full-sized not minis? Paul Paul, I am sorry to have missed your message. They are indeed full sized medals. I really think that the Navy and the Marine Corps expeditionary Service Medals are really pretty cool. Is it true that they did away with the Marine Corps version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wood Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Amazing you couldn't even have a decent nights drinking for $20. If I saw a mounted group at a fair for that price I would be tempted to buy it even though it is not my collecting field. I certainly am not aware of the Marine Corps version being discontinued and as I know a few ex marines at OMSA I am sure it would have come up over a few beers. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
army historian Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Unfortunately, there are still others missing from the list...I earned mine in 2009, for example, and its not on there at all... I doubt a comprehensive list will ever exist, sadly... I was not aware of this - thanks for the infromation. What did you get your NEM for in 2009? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyFCO Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 I was not aware of this - thanks for the infromation. What did you get your NEM for in 2009? Thanks It was for a combined operation we did with the Royal Navy. We applied for the Armed Forces Service Medal, as the criteria was more fitting for what we did, but the final approval came back for the Navy Expeditionary Medal. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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