Bavaria Bayern non-military 7 place medalbar

[Paul C]

That is over $5000!

[Claudio]

aha... that's why I didn't buy it! ;-)

[Paul C]

I think you made a good call. At 5K way over priced for me.

[Chris Boonzaier]

What would the medals be worth as singels with no background info?

[Claudio]

What would the medals be worth as singels with no background info?

Hi Chris,

I will trying to put a value, but some of the medals on the bar are really rare, but some very common... it all depends also what an amateur and collector of non-combatant bars or specifically collecting orders and medals of a single miniature German state pre-1918 (like Schaumburg-Lippe) would be prepared to shell out to get such a bar. If you are the only one to want something like that, then it's going to be comparatively cheap, but if there're just 2 of you who really want this bar, in auction can get very easily out of hand and very emotional and impulsive.

• SM VK am Nichtkämpferband, I would say no more than 120 Euro, also if that non-combatant ribbon is really very rare...
• Ludwig-Kreuz... pretty common... Eur 40.-
• Hl. St. Michael Orden 4th class with crown... again also here some Bavarian collectors can get very emotional, normally I would pay 600-800 Euro for that
• non-official commemorative jubilee medal for monarchist... well no definite price on it, but with that nice and rare ribbon I'd say 50-60 Euro?
• Prinzregent Luitpold Medal... cheap... very common in Bavaria... Eur 40.-
• Anhalt Hönigbär ;-) 1st class... mmmhhh... there are undervalued... quite a lot of "post-war" pieces around... an original would surely fetch about 600-800 Eur... not so collectable, maybe because there are no enamels and it's not cross-shaped
• Schaumburg-Lippe order for arts and sciences first class... well there are really rare, especially on bars! it all boils down to demand and offer, but I would say 1000-1500 Euros?

Total about Eur 3'000/3'500.- including 10% price increase because there is a name to it. Personally I would rather spend Eur 3000 then 3500, but it depends how much you want to have it in your collection.

ciao,

Claudio

[Dave Danner]

In the most recent auction results I can find:

Verdienstorden vom Heiligen Michael 4.Klasse mit der Krone: 850 Euros

Schaumburg-Lippe Orden für Kunst und Wissenschaft1. Klasse: 1550 euros

Dave

[rabaduex]

Is anyone else surprised that Kraus did not receive decorations from other countries like France, Italy or northern Europe. Seems as though a man of his standing would be recognized elsewhere. Also are there other bars to professionals like him known to the Forum. How do they match up.

[Chris Boonzaier]

Is anyone else surprised that Kraus did not receive decorations from other countries like France, Italy or northern Europe. Seems as though a man of his standing would be recognized elsewhere. Also are there other bars to professionals like him known to the Forum. How do they match up.

A good thought... If he had italikan and french it is very possible he had the bar remounted to exclude "enemy" awards?

[ixhs]

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