JohanH Posted January 4, 2019 Posted January 4, 2019 Hello! A little while ago I bought this interesting Finnish medalbar containing the following medals: Libertywar medal with bar and rose Order of the white rose Winterwar medal with bar and swords Pitkäranta-cross Liberation of Helsinki Danish medal Norwegian medal Does anybody recognize the Danish and Norwegian medals? They are completely unknown to me. What are they awarded for and during what time? Also does anybody have any idea how I´m going to find the recepients birth date? I have his name and city and were he worked after the war. I have tried to google his name without any luck. I know he died about 20 years ago. If i get his birth date i can order the "Stamkort" from the Finnish archives. //Johan
dedehansen Posted January 4, 2019 Posted January 4, 2019 Hi Johan, I think it is The Royal Medal of Recompense Christian X, Den kongelige Belønningsmedalje Christian X Kind regards Andreas
JohanH Posted January 4, 2019 Author Posted January 4, 2019 Thank you for a super fast reply Andreas. I believe you are right, it looks just like "Den kongelige Belønningsmedalje Christian X". If I manage to research the recepient it might be possible to find out why he got that medal. Do you know if there is a list of awardees of the Belöningsmedalj available? 27 minutes ago, dedehansen said: Hi Johan, I think it is The Royal Medal of Recompense Christian X, Den kongelige Belønningsmedalje Christian X Kind regards Andreas
dedehansen Posted January 4, 2019 Posted January 4, 2019 Hi JohanH, you are welcome. Sorry, I don´t know about any list from this medal. I collect german medal bars, and sometimes you can find theses medals on a german bar. Mostly these person are servants from the Kaiser and kings. Maybe you should start a new topic only about the danish medal, and ask the danish specialists?! Kind regards Andreas
Christiania Posted January 4, 2019 Posted January 4, 2019 The Norwegian medal is H.M. The King’s Commemorative Medal (H.M. Kongens erindringsmedalje), a royal decoration of Norway. Established in 1906 by King Haakon VIII, the medal is awarded to individuals for particularly meritorious service to the King. It is usually with a crown:
Great Dane Posted January 4, 2019 Posted January 4, 2019 Unfortunately there are no official lists for the Danish Medal of Recompense, as it could be awarded at the discretion of the King. It was typically awarded to foreigners in connection with a state visit.
Kvart Posted January 5, 2019 Posted January 5, 2019 Christiania is correct about the Norwegian medal. The royal commemorative medal in silver without crown was awarded from 1906 to about 1917, as a sort of 3rd and lowest class of the royal commemorative medals. It is quite rare.
dedehansen Posted January 5, 2019 Posted January 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Kvart said: Christiania is correct about the Norwegian medal. The royal commemorative medal in silver without crown was awarded from 1906 to about 1917, as a sort of 3rd and lowest class of the royal commemorative medals. It is quite rare. Hi, do there exist rolls for this medal? Regards Andreas
Kvart Posted January 5, 2019 Posted January 5, 2019 No, not available for the public. There might be something in the royal archives, but not so easy to get access there.
JohanH Posted January 6, 2019 Author Posted January 6, 2019 I am very impressed about all the knowledge there is on this forum. Super thanks to all of you! Now I´m even more interested in finding out about the owner and why he got the royal medals but don´t have any higher Finnish orders. It´s quite interesting that the Norwegian medal was so early as before 1917. If I manage to find any interesting information I´ll post it here! Thanks again to all of you!
Great Dane Posted January 6, 2019 Posted January 6, 2019 If I remember correctly (Kvart can correct me if I'm wrong), the Norwegian commemorative medal was also often awarded in connection with state visits. Maybe he was in a supporting role during such visits (i.e. not as a court official, but as a lower ranking official like police etc.)
Christiania Posted January 6, 2019 Posted January 6, 2019 Great Dane is right, it can be awarded in connection with state visits and when the King is abroad.
Great Dane Posted January 6, 2019 Posted January 6, 2019 Furthermore, looking at the reverse of the Danish medal, it looks like the type that was struck between 1916 and 1920 (the wreath and maker's mark differ slightly between the types).
VtwinVince Posted January 7, 2019 Posted January 7, 2019 Don't forget that Denmark ruled Norway until fairly recently (1905?). Very interesting all-Scandinavian medal bar.
922F Posted January 7, 2019 Posted January 7, 2019 An exceptional bar by any standard! First time I've ever seen the Norwegian medal on a bar. Yes, Denmark-Norway-Sweden existed as a personal union [in brief, states united under a single monarch but with nominal individual national institutions and characteristics] from about the 1390's until about 1523 when Sweden became independent. Denmark 'ceded' Norway to Sweden by terms of the 1814 Treaty of Kiel with Norway then entering into a personal union relationship with Sweden [in spite of serious Norwegian resistance]. Norway gained full independence in 1905 when the Norwegian Parliament dissolved that personal union with Sweden. Great Dane and Christiana most likely describe why the recipient received non-Finnish awards. Besides work during an official visit by police and such, railroad and ship personnel sometimes got this type award in recognition of excellent service or in lieu of a tip.
JohanH Posted January 10, 2019 Author Posted January 10, 2019 Thanks all for the information. My knowledge in Danish/Norwegian orders and medals are close to non existing. I asked the "Ordenskapitel" in Denmark if they have any information about the name of the recipient but unfortunately they couldn´t find anything. But he thought it might have something to do with the Danish volunteers in the winterwar? The hunt/research continues…
Great Dane Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 I seriously doubt the "Danish volunteer" theory. The recipient was clearly Finnish (Finnish awards first), not Danish. And as I stated, the Danish Medal of Recompense must have been awarded between 1916 and 1920 (or shortly after).
Kvart Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 The Norwegian medal could have been awarded during state visits from head of states, yes. But I'm not so sure about this medal in this actual group. King Haakon of Norway recieved state visit from Finland 6-8 October 1926, and went to Finland 2-4 June 1928. Which is after the year it is generelly belived this medal was no longer awarded. But there might be other visits, of far less formal character.
ozmedals Posted January 26, 2020 Posted January 26, 2020 on a slight tangent to the topic, can anyone suggest where I can get fullsize ribbon for the King Haakon VII coronation medal ? thanks ozmedals
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