Motorhead Posted April 15, 2006 Share Posted April 15, 2006 This morning I've been to a fleamarked in Heidelberg....the first good EK since a few years!A worn,but still good Alois Rettenmaier L/59 with the additional marking"S" and a "rhomb" under the pin. This one has got a similar pin to the "26" B.H.Meyer,something that I have seen only at the "S" marked pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Motorhead Posted April 15, 2006 Author Share Posted April 15, 2006 Maker Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorhead Posted April 15, 2006 Author Share Posted April 15, 2006 The "rhomb" under the pin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorhead Posted April 15, 2006 Author Share Posted April 15, 2006 Here's another one from my collection-different pin and hinge,maker marked with L/59 and a "square".No markings under the pinObverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe campbell Posted April 15, 2006 Share Posted April 15, 2006 wish i could find some flea markets like that herein the states.....very nice find, micha!joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Motorhead Posted April 15, 2006 Author Share Posted April 15, 2006 And here's the matching screwback variation-also marked with L/59 and a "square" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Motorhead Posted April 15, 2006 Author Share Posted April 15, 2006 The markings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorhead Posted April 15, 2006 Author Share Posted April 15, 2006 And the screw... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Gregory Posted April 15, 2006 Share Posted April 15, 2006 Lucky find - I wish my local flea market was as good as yours!I seem to remember the square used as a mark on 1914 iron crosses. Is it a mark used by the same maker on both 1939 and 1914 crosses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe campbell Posted April 15, 2006 Share Posted April 15, 2006 WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW!!! that sure does appear to be the very same squareseen on what are generally magnificent quality1914 crosses.not having references nearby, is this L/59 alois rettenmaier?my pulse is up!joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorhead Posted April 15, 2006 Author Share Posted April 15, 2006 Absolute right,Joe-L/59 is Alois Rettenmaier. The"square".....hmm,realy hard to tell-When I'm back home I will try to make some really big scans of the "square" markings.Maybe we have luck and the stampings where made with the same tool.....Micha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted April 15, 2006 Share Posted April 15, 2006 Hi Micha, the square shows up on a number of WW1 EK1's and even on the pin of the occasional pilot badge. I'm not convinced yet that the PB's at least are authentic... The EK1's yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorhead Posted April 15, 2006 Author Share Posted April 15, 2006 Hi Rick,what makes you think the marking could be not authentic? There are just two EKs where you can find them-these special 1914 EK variation with a"unique" core-and the EKs from Alois Rettenmaier.....Micha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted April 15, 2006 Share Posted April 15, 2006 Micha, I accept the mark as authentic.I am not convinced that this mark on a pilot badge is authentic.I think these pilot badges may be copies with false markings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorhead Posted April 15, 2006 Author Share Posted April 15, 2006 Ups......my ability in understanding foreign languages I should improve my english-by the way,have you got some pictures with these fake markings?It could be interesting to compare them with the EK markings.Micha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted April 16, 2006 Share Posted April 16, 2006 HelloA very nice collection of beautiful original EKs. Thanks for showing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Arne S Posted April 16, 2006 Share Posted April 16, 2006 Very Nice L/59 EK 1`s from Rattenmaier , one of my favourite makers of EK 1`s . Jan Arne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauptmann Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 Hi Motorhead,An excellent find! Wish I "had" flea markets where I am. They do on the other hand tend to have a ton of estate sales where quite often "finds" pop up and can be had for a song. Folks out here have farmsteads and even family homes that go back to the late 1800's and seems each generation pack rats away "everything"! Then somewhere along the way, especially when someone dies and they need to get rid of everything they have one of these (if not several) huge sales and stuff just shows up that you would not believe and for prices from "back in the day" or even earlier.Anyhow terrific piece. You are indeed a lucky man! Congratulations! May you find many, many more! Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Garvy Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 (edited) Beautiful crosses, Micha, and may I also comment that the pin, hinge, & clasp configuration resembles those utilized on Otto Schickle manufactured crosses. Many unmarked crosses I have looked at, and thought were unmarked Schickles, have later turned out to be unmarked Rettenmaier's or Meyer's. . . Edited April 17, 2006 by Bill Garvy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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