Odd St George Cross anyone got the foggiest idea?

[paul wood]

Amongst a collection of assorted Russian material, which contains some nice material, this wierd Cross of St George appeared. It seems to be made of German silver which would suggest a manufacture date of the second quarter of the 19th century. the ide with St George is as normal but the obverse instead of the usual monogram as a crowned CL monogram. I have racked my brains but have got Rockall, Shannon and Hebrides. Anyone with any thoughts?

 

P

[Marcon1]

Hiya, although this is not my area of knowledge I do know that this medal was issued before 1917 (tsarist era) and again since 1992 (Russian Federation).

Could this be a modern (1992) issue ???

[Tupper]

Hollo. No, the modern version has the Russian eagle on it

[JapanX]

1 hour ago, Tupper said:

Hollo. No, the modern version has the Russian eagle on it

This is a fake St.George Cross for non-christians. 

 

See

 

[paul wood]

all i know is the collector who is in the great meeting place in the sky did most of his collecting 50s-70s and certainly nothing post early 1980s.

p

[Tupper]

11 hours ago, JapanX said:

This is a fake St.George Cross for non-christians. 

 

See

 

OH OK. I don't collect those. I always thought that these were modern day Russian at George crosses 

[Elmar Lang]

Hello,

 

this is not related to Russia, but it's the lowest class cross of the Military Order (aka "Military Distinction") of St.George of the Duchy of Lucca so, to be classified amongst the "former Italian States". The crowned, "CL" Monogram is that of the Duke Carlo Lodovico.

 

The correct ribbon is white, with broad, red side stripes.

 

I hope this information would be of some help,

 

best wishes,

 

Enzo (E.L.)

Edited May 20, 2021 by Elmar Lang

[paul wood]

Enzo,

You are a hero, never crossed my mind being in with Russian stuff.

I definitely owe you a few drinks.

All the best,

Paul

[paul wood]

Enzo,

Funnily enough I have encountered several 1st and 2nd class enamelled badges of the Military Order of St George of Lucca in aristoctatic European homes but have never seen the silver cross before, I assume it must be quite rare.

Best wishes,

 

Paul

[Wild Card]

Enzo!

 

Amazing. Who would ever have guessed?

[Tupper]

On 20/05/2021 at 10:04, Elmar Lang said:

Hello,

 

this is not related to Russia, but it's the lowest class cross of the Military Order (aka "Military Distinction") of St.George of the Duchy of Lucca so, to be classified amongst the "former Italian States". The crowned, "CL" Monogram is that of the Duke Carlo Lodovico.

 

The correct ribbon is white, with broad, red side stripes.

 

I hope this information would be of some help,

 

best wishes,

 

Enzo (E.L.)

That's cool thank you for the information! 

[Elmar Lang]

Hello,

 

I'm more than happy that my little contribution to this discussion could have been of some help.

 

Paul: I'm not a hero; only, I live in Italy and the Orders of Lucca are part of our phaleristical heritage. But the mentioned drinks would be a great opportunity to meet again and discuss about Italy's ancient orders and decorations!

 

All the best,

 

Enzo