Avitas Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 Hi, any ideas on the maker of this badge? It is unmarked and has a badly damaged/repaired pin/catch/hinge set-up. I have another like it I will post also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avitas Posted April 27, 2006 Author Share Posted April 27, 2006 Here is the back, again, ugly pin set-up, bad re-soddering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avitas Posted April 27, 2006 Author Share Posted April 27, 2006 Here is the other one I have like it, except made out of tombak. It is mounted to a lanyard.Anybody know the maker?Thanks,Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avitas Posted April 28, 2006 Author Share Posted April 28, 2006 I will put bigger pics up for this soon, unless anybody has any opinions.ThanksPat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauptmann Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Here is the back, again, ugly pin set-up, bad re-soddering.Hi Pat,I'm not an expert on these by far... but I just don't like the look of the pin/hinge setup on this one. Could be wrong and hope others comment as well but just something about it as well as some of the look to the front makes it something I would probably have passed by.I really hope I'm wrong... have been rooting for you, but better to find out now.Hope this helps, Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauptmann Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Here is the other one I have like it, except made out of tombak. It is mounted to a lanyard.Anybody know the maker?Thanks,PatHi Pat,Definitely need better pics on both the silver and the bronze. But on the bronze it's incorrectly mounted on what appears to be a Schutzenschnur. This is an award for shooting... kind of like our markman badges in the various services. They were used from Imperial times (I believe) all the way up to present day and were also used by the DDR. And they were also service specific with a Kreigsmarine version, Luftwaffe version, etc.But this is not the correct insignia for the lanyard. I would definitely take the bronze infantry assault off of that (carefully) and then examine and take pics of the reverse of the bronze. It could well have a makers mark or gives clues to the maker and indeed the originality (or not) of the piece. But from this pic I just can't tell.Hoping once you post the new pics of both that others will comment. I really hope these turn out okay... or at least the bronze.I used to have several of these but only have my framed set from John Angolia now... along with a stickpin mini like those you see in cased sets on occassion.Framed set:http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=7841&hl=Stickpin:http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=7485&hl=I'll be keeping my fingers crossed and looking forward to seeing better pics.Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Arne S Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Hi Pat !Need better pics , but from what I se of the Silver IAB from pics , cant say I like it .Jan Arne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avitas Posted May 29, 2006 Author Share Posted May 29, 2006 Here are some better scans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avitas Posted May 29, 2006 Author Share Posted May 29, 2006 the back of the first IAB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avitas Posted May 29, 2006 Author Share Posted May 29, 2006 the second IAB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avitas Posted May 29, 2006 Author Share Posted May 29, 2006 and finally the reverse of the second IAb, hope the new scans help.Thanks,Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauptmann Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 Hi Pat,You've no idea how I hate to say this... but don't really like the look of either of these. I hope the others prove me wrong, but for various reasons I don't think these look good.Are they from that same German or someone else? Regardless, if it was me I'd take them back for a refund post haste! Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notned Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 Hi Pat,I dont profess to be an expert on these...BUT I have to agree with Dan on this...they both look to me to be cast fakes...the pitting on the reverse's gives them away....Sorry! Keep trawling this site ...you will learn alot and get very sharp eyed...Hope they did not cost you too much! or even better...hope you can send them back!CheersPaul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg.hays Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 Both appear to be cast copies......pretty good from the reverse view I would say. These are cast more then likely from a good "BSW" IAB. Sorry.........Hi Pat,I dont profess to be an expert on these...BUT I have to agree with Dan on this...they both look to me to be cast fakes...the pitting on the reverse's gives them away....Sorry! Keep trawling this site ...you will learn alot and get very sharp eyed...Hope they did not cost you too much! or even better...hope you can send them back!CheersPaul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 Is the badge flat?Any concave to it at all? don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hunter Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 I'm inclined to agree with Dan and Paul. Both look to be nasty castings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans N Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I agree with the others, 2 bad casted fakes. The faker even used the same mold for both badges! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avitas Posted July 12, 2006 Author Share Posted July 12, 2006 Sadly, it appears most of my badges are early cast copies of originals, which explains why the front details and maker marks match on most of them, but lack sharpness and correct pin set-up. Luckily, I have fared far better in the last couple of years after that first year when these were bought. Considering how much I paid for them (35 bucks each) I should have known they were fakes, but I really didn;t know how valuable they really were. Nimmergut's price guide solved that. This has been an invaluable lesson and I thank everyone who has helped out!Cheers,Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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