new world Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 (edited) Hard to tell from the photos if this award was made this way or Tsar crown was replaced with Prince one. To be sure need to see this cross in person. Anyway, listed by a well known dealer for multiples of what these crosses sell for. Dealer description: Bulgaria, Kingdom. A National Order for Military Merit with Princely Crown, IV Class Officer, Extremely Rare (Национален орден за военна заслуга). Instituted in 1900. Multi-piece construction, in bronze gilt with red, white and green enamels, unmarked, extremely rare as the cross is surmounted by the Princely Crown; only a few such crosses were manufactured, measuring 50.8 mm (w) x 76 mm (h) inclusive of its princely crown suspension, very light contact, large rosette affixed to its original triangular ribbon with hook and eye, extremely fine. Cross in the top condition, and of highest rarity. Edited July 13, 2022 by new world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
922F Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Suspect mule--among other 'tells', note pristine condition except for pin ends in suspension crown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wood Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 More of a donkey than a mule, crown is almost certainly the child of a civil merit order, some moron will part with good cash for it. Why can't I meet such people and end up rich. For those not au fait with the Bulgarian Orders system, while the date on the reverse of the Military medal is given as 1891 (the same as the Civil Merit) it was not created until 1900 by which time the Imperial crown had replaced the Princely one, it's just so sad that two perfectly nice orders have been bastardised. P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
922F Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 The spectacled gent has made some sort of allusion here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 (edited) Hi, The dealer is eMedals, known of selling several "unusual Bulgarian orders and Sets in the past I personally, will not depart with nearly 2000 US dollars for questionable item. It is on Auction on their site for $1600 plus com of 22% In addition this dealer started running very questionable and odd Auction Sales with no any transparency and with odd changing of the end time of the Auction and few more questionable practices Not to mention many "collectors" copies of different Orders from Europe Well till we have ignorant buyers with extra money to spend those practices will continue Paul Wood is spot on Edited July 16, 2022 by Graf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new world Posted July 18, 2022 Author Share Posted July 18, 2022 I would be surprised if anyone buys this award for such price. My guess is this is some sort of consignment item and after it's not sold it will go back to the owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 New World, On 18/07/2022 at 23:38, new world said: I would be surprised if anyone buys this award for such price. My guess is this is some sort of consignment item and after it's not sold it will go back to the owner. It looks like your guess was correct On 18/07/2022 at 23:38, new world said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Still not a sign of this strange Officer on the seller site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 On 31/07/2022 at 08:12, Graf said: Still not a sign of this strange Officer on the seller site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new world Posted August 8, 2022 Author Share Posted August 8, 2022 On 30/07/2022 at 18:12, Graf said: Still not a sign of this strange Officer on the seller site Perhaps we will see it offered by a different dealer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Perhaps. We will see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Still no signs of this order on the market I wonder whether it will pop up again for sale again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 This piece is back on auction on the same dealer's website, with a starting bid of $1,475. No bids yet, with a week to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 7 hours ago, Ferdinand said: This piece is back on auction on the same dealer's website, with a starting bid of $1,475. No bids yet, with a week to go. Yes I saw it Good Luck The items is very questionable for a advanced collector to buy it and also is very high for a new collector to bid We will see Personally i will not bid Also i lost confidence with this seller His Auctions are very questionable at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 On 07/08/2023 at 00:42, Ferdinand said: This piece is back on auction on the same dealer's website, with a starting bid of $1,475. No bids yet, with a week to go. I am following the sale It is blunt wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 I do not know whether we influenced the seller or i by incident , however this questionable cross was removed from sale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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