Lt. d. R. Otto Georg Thierack

[Deutschritter]

Gentlemen, I read, that Dr. jur. Otto Georg Thierack, later Reich Minister of Justice, fought in the Reserve-Jäger-Bataillon Nr. 18. Does anyone have any exact dates and units? He was either hurt or wounded severly (face, head), when I look at pictures, it seems he has a glass left eye. Führerlexikon has him with these decorations (but no VWA): 

 

Iron Cross (1914), 2nd Class

Reussian Cross of Honor with Swords (REK4⚔)

Saxon Albert Order (Albrechts-Orden), Knight 2nd Class (SA3b⚔)

 

Anything else? He supposedly was also Hauptmann d. R. of the Wehrmacht. Thanks! 

 

 

 

[P.F.]

-Honour Cross with Swords (1934)

-Civilian Long Service Decoration (for 25 years, I would guess)

-Italian Order of the Crown, Grand Officer Cross 

[The Prussian]

Hello!

I couldn´ t find an officer in RJB18.

I also found two promotions of Thierack.

1) January 27, 1918: Vizefeldwebel to Lt.d.Res. Thierack (from Cologne)

2) April, 29, 1918: Vizefeldwebel to Lt.d.Res. Therack (from Neutomischel)

Both don´t fit.

 

According to Wiki he was born in Saxony.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Georg_Thierack

 

There is an entry in the casualty lists:

Oberjäger (NCO) Thierack in saxon Res.Jg.Btl.13

http://des.genealogy.net/search/show/2407768

 

In that battalion I found him as officer since march 1917:

 

Officer in 1st company (not company-leader): 26.3.17-14.4.17

Trench-mortar detachment: 14.4.17-20.6.17

Adjutant of the regiment: 15.7.17-2.9.17, then sick in hospital

Orderly-officer: 18.5.18-5.7.18

Adjutant of the regiment: 5.7.18-12.9.18

Signalling-officer: 16.10.18-10.12.18

 

Maybe he was 1916 Oberjäger (NCO) and became Lieutenant of reserve in 1917???

 

 

 

 

Edited November 19, 2023 by The Prussian

[Deruelle]

He served with Res Jäger Btn Nr. 13

[Deruelle]

I thought he received the RE3X and not RE4X. Have to find his fils to be sure

 

Christophe

[Glenn J]

He was commissioned as a Leutnant der Reserve in Reserve-Jäger-Bataillon 13 on 26 March 1917. 

 

AR2X on 21 August 1917.

 

Regards

Glenn

Edited November 19, 2023 by Glenn J

[Deutschritter]

Thanks so much, Gentlemen, so the Führerlexikon got it wrong. These dates are just great!!! Sick in hospital? I wonder, if that was due to the head/face injury/wound. Adjutant of the regiment? May I ask to which regiment the Reserve-Jäger-Bataillon 13 was subordinated to? 

 

About the REK4 (I probably got that wrong) or 3: REK3 (or REK2?) would be the Offizierkreuz, I do wonder if a Leutnant der Reserve would receive that grade? Please let me know. Italian Order of the Crown, Grand Officer Cross? That would make sense, I have for a while now wondered what the star decoration (2nd picture, also apparently something around the neck) is, I think, this could be it! Once again, thanks everyone! 

 

Edited November 20, 2023 by Deutschritter

[The Prussian]

Interesting!

Lieutenant March 27, 1917.

On March 26, the bataillon started their journey to Macedonia.

[Deruelle]

13 hours ago, Deutschritter said:

Thanks so much, Gentlemen, so the Führerlexikon got it wrong. These dates are just great!!! Sick in hospital? I wonder, if that was due to the head/face injury/wound. Adjutant of the regiment? May I ask to which regiment the Reserve-Jäger-Bataillon 13 was subordinated to? 

 

About the REK4 (I probably got that wrong) or 3: REK3 (or REK2?) would be the Offizierkreuz, I do wonder if a Leutnant der Reserve would receive that grade? Please let me know. Italian Order of the Crown, Grand Officer Cross? That would make sense, I have for a while know wondered what the star decoration (2nd picture, also apparently something around the neck) is, I think, this could be it! Once again, thanks everyone! 

 

Hi,

RE3XKr is for Hauptmann

RE3X is for Leutnant and Oberleutnant

 

It is possible to have a close up of the medal bar to be sure about Reuß medal please ?

 

Christophe

[Dave Danner]

I have him with the REKj3X, but I think my information was secondhand from Christophe.

 

From the battalion history:

 

26.03.17-14.04.17 Kompanieoffizier, 1./RJB 13
15.07.17-02.09.17 Bataillons-Adjutant
02.09.17 krank, ins Lazarett
18.05.18-05.07.18 Ordonnanz-Offizier beim Stabe RJB 13
05.07.18-12.09.18 Bataillons-Adjutant
16.10.18-10.12.18 Nachrichten-Offizier beim Stabe RJB 13

[Deutschritter]

Thanks, Gentlemen! Sorry, I have no other pictures with medal bar. 

[The Prussian]

Hello Dave!

You forgot the "Trench-mortar-detachment" (see my post from sunday 15:29).

 

I´m not sure if all the scars came from fights in the war...

The large one on his left cheek seems to be a dueling scar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dueling_scar

 

Edited November 21, 2023 by The Prussian

[Deutschritter]

I was thinking the same, the face scar is almost too "pretty", and he was a member of the Guestphalia Marburg Corps (pflichtschlagend).