Ulsterman

Hmmmmmmm...technical chap huh? Ek2/HHox/?/Austrian WW1??? (doubtful)/HKx....hmmmmmm no LS but double EKs by 1942-....Hmmmmmmm......telephones? Medicos?

He should be easy to trace by the noncom EK2 (1870) alone!

I have seen ONE in 12 years now and "Rastafari" (aka Jim Marshall) may have another later version. That ribbon bar is FANTASTIC!!!! It screams army NCO infantry.

whoa-whoa! You had DERG medals confiscated? What did i miss?

Dear God it is happening already. I missed a Canadian BWM this morning for $25 and the guy who bought it going to "melt it down" as silver is heading towards @$50 an ounce. Given the supply ratio of silver:gold is 17:1, some metals analysts are predicting a "true" silver price of $92 an ounce by the end of the summer-OUCH! One things for darn certain, I will now NEVER own a Saxon St. Henrys' gold medal! Oh Stogie! I should have bought when i could.

Hot Damn! I have seen those before (recently and I am going back) and always thought that they were veterans post war buy-it-yourself stuff. NOW I am VERY excited Indeed! Thanks for posting this.

bump for Soenke.

The 1st class mecklenburg-Stelitz cross with "Fuer Tapferkeit" was awarded ONLY 21 times from 1915-1923. We can eliminate the Royals , Ludendorf and Hindenburg and Eichhorn, which leaves only 15 Generals.That's rare. The bar is possibly traceable. Does the Meck- Str. medal say 'Tapferkeit or Taperkeit und true".

Yeah- whoops- my spilling error BMVOX I meant- but when the Hamburg rolls come out....one day...

well, the st. Henrys and Sax. albrchtkrz one might be winnowed down to about a dozen or so recipients. One day soon perhaps the Oldenburg rolls will come out and then......

Because of the red cross medal (hinting at medical doctor) the Bav MMO and the Hamburg medal? Seems navy-medico doesn't it?

a LEATHER shoulder tab!!!! whoop whoop! :cheers:

Ges. Gesch. mean "applied for patent" Ummmm...gotta go look back to see difference between M1 and M1a versions and bund means "association" or "group" and has "fraternal" connotations- like "brotherhood' etc. but not as informal. So, no difference. Kyffsr. is the mountain where the original war memorial was put up. These vets groups ALL have political overtones- as they were used by the Conservatives as socio-political bulwarks against the rapidly expanding (and radical) SPD/KPD. Some Kyfssrbnd. groups did not permit Jewish members and others prohibited SPD membership.

well, with fewer than Anhalt 1,000 knight 1st class medals one might suppose he'd be easy to track down. Anyone got Anhalt rolls?

oh he is fine! I just got a box of books from him yesterday. He is luxuriating in a snow free yard after being trapped behind acres of snow for months. I think IR 109 may have a regimental history on googlebooks. It rings a bell.

I reckon that's a Berlin Detective Inspector type....if it's original (Oh to have Rick L. look at this one).

bar denotes a repeat award- gallantry medal.

I know for certain that the Brunswick muster rolls exist and am comfortable that the medal rolls are somewhere out there because I have seen references by others to other individuals named on them. I think the Brunswick muster rolls are in the British archives (PRO?) but do not know for certain. I would try asking Glover directly over at the Napoleonic Forum or the Waterloo Society. Also, write Spinks.

Wasn't the REO and/or the AEZ given for best gunnery every year? Markmans' badges for enlisted and AEZ and REOs for commanders of the Kaiserprize winners unit. My understanding was that the Crown order was almost always given to officers BEFORE the REO, except in very rare, "special" circumstances and that the AEZ was given to enlisted/WOs for similar actions-e.g. Doenitz's leadership of a navy landing party in Albania as a Cadet in early 1914. The Colonial and China medal would strongly hint at navy.

well, to me it's the sort of bar that someone who was originally in the Colonial troops and then went regular gendarmerie back home might have had. The Crown order is suspicious-as noted, BUT COs were gazetted in 1908-1917 to all sorts of criminal Detective types AND to Beamten of mid level and higher ranks. Some were even awarded for odd incidents like life saving or specific "incidents" or being Postal commissioner of some backwater outpost or honorary counsel somewhere. The army/navy LS 15 is for enlisted men who served 15 years-(war time counted double-as did some overseas time/cruise time. These were commonly handed out in 1919-24.2 years overseas as a Colonial, 4 years in WW1 and 1919 gets you a 15 LS medal. Time served got fudged too into some other LS awards. I assume it did for the police LS. The Luftschutz medal also is the sort of thing professional police got as "gas coordinators" in urban areas. The metal backing and the french medal are suspicious.....BUT don't mistake me, there are so many things wrong with this bar that it's either been made by a complete novice/idiot or it's ok. "It's so ugly to me it's cute". The medals individually I reckon are worth @ 650 so why not? I'd like to see the bars though and check the possibility of these awards. Lots of warning flags- but the story is possible and so unusual I'd take a risk.

In terms of probabilities the first is probably an EK2. Isn't the 2nd a Hamburg Hansakreuz-making this in all liklihood a navy officer/ Beamters' bar?

Ywah- I'd be happy to have either or both in my collection.

WOW!!!!! I loved that book. You knew him?? I am deeply impressed. His book is one of the best military histories ever written IMHO.

Buy it now. Story makes sense except for the 15 LS medal- which does make sense though if it's a Colonial Landwehr guy who was in the Police later back home. The bars may make him tracable as Glenn has the old Police lists.