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Thanks Alex Christophe

Hi Christer, Very nice ribbon bar you have there, congrats. I'm not sure that your bar belonged to a Medic officer. If so he probably received a prussian red cross. Recently during my research I find some Generals (old one who fought in the 1870-1871 war) received the KVK. Christophe

Hi Yo uhave got a very very nice medal. Thanks for sharing it with us. During the Austrian Prussian war in 1866, only 23 crosses were awarded. The S hallmark is for the word Silber Christophe

Hi, Very impressive collection, thanks for your sharing it with us. Christophe

Hi Rick, Here is some date for your friend who has this very nice medal bar SA3X, 28 March 1871, EK2, 19 January 1873, Eichenblattspange 25, 1895, 70-71 DKM, 1871, HJ, April 1904, HLM, 1866, PZM, March 1897. Christophe

Thanks Dave for the informations. I have found additional date od death in the following book : Das Kgl. Sachs 2 Ulanen regiment Nr. 18 (1892-1918). I have found the death date of Boddien (1926) and Poten (1914). About the awards of von Schele, I have found the PRA4 on 1889. Like you said Dave, only 71 Hannovrian officiers went to Saxe and only 14 received the HEAR. I hope, one day, finding more photos of these brave men. Christophe

Thanks all for your information. Very nice picture you had Karsten ! too bad that this one is not in my collection. Dave, I fix the part of von Bülow. He received the AC1 on 16 April 1887. Christophe

Basse, Julius Wilhelm General d. Inf. (1848-1934) VC1X, le 17 avril 1901, VC1, le 16 mai 1906, VC2, le 17 avril 1901, VRKD, le 28 mars 1871, AGXR, le 26 mars 1907, AC1, le 1er août 1904, AC2, le 15 avril 1898, AO, le 16 avril 1896, ARKD, le 1er octobre 1870, DAK, 1889, BrHLG, le 14 janvier 1905, HEAR2, 1866, MGrG, le 8 juillet 1902, PK1, 1903, EK2, le 19 janvier 1873, Eichenblattspange 25, 1895, PZM, mars 1897, SEHG, le 12 décembre 1906, WKE, 1894, WFGmKr, le 28 mars 1906, WFG, 1905, WFC2, 1898 1866 KDM, 1867, 1870-1871 KDM, 1871, HLM, 1866. Boddien, Georg Albert Rittmeister d. R. a. D (1850-1926) AOXR, le 18 mai 1909, ARKD, le 1er octobre 1870, HEAR2, 1866, EK2, le 19 janvier 1873, Eichenblattspange 25, 1895, PZM, mars 1897, 1866 KDM, 1867, 1870-1871 KDM, 1871, HLM, 1866. Brinkmann, Julius Erich Eberhard Oberst (1823-1903 ) SH3, le 27 mars 1871, AC2, le 7 juin 1878, HEAR1, 1866, HWK, 1873, PK2, 1876, EK1, le 19 janvier 1873, Eichenblattspange 25, 1895, WFC2mX, 1871, 1866 KDM, 1867, 1870-1871 KDM, 1871, HLM, 1866. Bülow, Hans von Oberst (1836-1896) SH3, le 27 mars 1871, VRKD, le 1er octobre 1870, AC1, le 16 avril 1887, DAK, 1876, GEC, 1885, ÖFJC, 1878, ÖEK2, 1884, PK2, 1882, SEHC2, 1876, HEAR2, 1866, EK2, le 19 janvier 1873, Eichenblattspange 25, 1895, 1866 KDM, 1867, 1870-1871 KDM, 1871, HLM, 1866. Decken, Theodor von der Major a. D (1842- VR1, 14 Avril 1900, AC2, le 16 mai 1911, HEAR2, 1866, EK2, le 19 janvier 1873, Eichenblattspange 25, 1895, PZM, mars 1897, HHC, 1908, SEHC2, 1898, WFC2, 1905, 1866 KDM, 1867, 1870-1871 KDM, 1871, HLM, 1866. Decken, Eberhardt Wilhelm Benedikt von der Oberst a. D. (1843- DAK, 1886 HEAR2, 1866, PZM, mars 1897, 1866 KDM, 1867, 1870-1871 KDM, 1871, HLM, 1866. Ebmeier, Georg William Premier-Lieutenant (1844- LDA2, 1874, HEAR2, 1866, 1866 KDM, 1867, PZM, mars 1897, HLM, 1866. Harling, Maximilian Friedrich Major (1832- SH3, le 29 septembre 1870, HEAR2, 1866, EK2, le 19 janvier 1873, Eichenblattspange 25, 1895, 1866 KDM, 1867, 1870-1871 KDM, 1871, PZM, mars 1897 HLM, 1866. Hodenberg, Gottlob Frhr von Oberst (1837- SH3, le 29 septembre 1870, DAK, 1878, HEAR2, 1866, PK3, 1875, EK1, le 19 janvier 1873, 1866 KDM, 1867, 1870-1871 KDM, 1871, HLM, 1866. Klenck, Wilhelm Fritz Carl Rittmeister SH3, le 29 septembre 1870, HEAR2, 1866, EK2, le 19 janvier 1873, Eichenblattspange 25, 1895, PZM, mars 1897, 1866 KDM, 1867, 1870-1871 KDM, 1871, HLM, 1866. Köring, Ernst Friedrich Gustav Major (1839- DAK, 1881, HEAR2, 1866, EK2, le 19 janvier 1873, 1866 KDM, 1867, 1870-1871 KDM, 1871, HLM, 1866. Meyer, Hermann Friedrich Hauptmann HEAR2, 1866, 1866 KDM, 1867, HLM, 1866. Poten, Karl August Wilhelm Major (1845-1905) AC2, le 18 avril 1891, DAK, 1885, HEAR2, 1866, BMVC, 1889, PRA2, le 15 septembre 1896, PK3, 1875, JSch3, le 25 janvier 1895, 1866 KDM, 1867, 1870-1871 KDM, 1871, HLM, 1866. Poten, Friedrich Karl Ernst Major z. D. (1837-1914) ARKD, le 1er octobre 1870, HEAR2, 1866, EK2, le 19 janvier 1873, Eichenblattspange 25, 1895, PZM, mars 1897, 1866 KDM, 1867, 1870-1871 KDM, 1871, HLM, 1866. Schele, Arnold Ludwig Hauptmann (1849-1922) ARKD, le 1er octobre 1870, HEAR2, 1866, PRA4, 1889, PK4, 1872, EK2, le 19 janvier 1873, PZM, mars 1897, 1866 KDM, 1867, 1870-1871 KDM, 1871, HLM, 1866. Tschirschnitz, Julius Oswald Oberst (1834-1921) VRKD, le 28 mars 1871, DAK, 1874, HG4, 1866, HEAR2, 1866, BMC, 1878, PK2, 1882, EK2, le 19 janvier 1873, Eichenblattspange 25, 1895, JVAS3 : 1887, 1866 KDM, 1867, 1870-1871 KDM, 1871, HLM, 1866. Uslar-Gleichen, Ludolf Frhr von Major (1842- DAK, 1885, HEAR2, 1866, PK3, 1873, 1866 KDM, 1867, 1870-1871 KDM, 1871, HLM, 1866. Lexique : SH : St Heinrich V : Verdienst Orden A : Albrecht order LDA : Landwehr Dienstauszeichnung DAK : Dienstauszeichnung Kreuz für Offiziere 1866 KDM : Kriegsdenkmünze 1866 PRA : Preußen Rot Adler Orden PK : Preußen Krone Orden EK : Preußen Eiserne Kreuz PZM : Preußen Zentenial Medaille 1870-1871 KDM: Kriegsdenkmünze 1870-1871 HG4 : Hannoversche Guelphen Order HEA : Hannoversche Ernst August Order HWK : Hannoversche Wilhelm Kreuz HLM : Hannoversche Langensalza Medaille HH : FHohenzollernscher Hausorden BM : Bayerische Verdienst Orden von Heiligen Mickael BMV : Militär Verdienst Orden BrHL : Braunschweing Heinrich des Löwen Orden Jsch : Japan Order des Heiligen Schatzes JVAS : Japan Verdienstorden der aufgehenden Sonne GE : Griechische Erlöser Order SEH : Sachsen Ernestine Hausorden WF : Wurttemberg Friedrich Orden WK : Wurttemberg Krone Orden ÖFJ : Österreich Franz Joseph Orden ÖEK : Österreich Eiserne Krone R : Ritterkreuz : C : Commandeur Kreuz G : GroßKreuz mK : mit Krone KD : Krieg Dekoration XR : Schwertern am Ringe Sources : Königlich Sächsischen Militär Verordnungsblatt, Dresden, Heinrich, 1892-1918. Rangliste der Königlich Sachs. Armee, Dresden, Heinrich, 1866-1918. RICHTER (G.), Der Königlich Sächsische Militär St-Heinrichs-Orden 1736-1918, Frankfurt a/ M., Verlag Weidlich,1964, 752 p. ROTH (E.), Die Verleihungen des Hausordens der Rautenkrone, des Verdienstordens, des Verdienstordens mit Schwertern (bis 1914), sowie der Damenorden des Königreichs Sachsen, Offenbach, Phaleristischer Verlag, 1998, 184 p. ROTH (E.), Die Verleihungen des Kgl. Sächs. Albrechtsordens und des Albrechtsordens mit Schwertern (bis 1914), Offenbach, Phaleristischer Verlag, 1998, 259 p. Christophe

Hi everybody, In this topic I have made a lot of research about some Hannovrian medals received by Saxon officiers in XIXth Century. If someone has a medal bar or something to show don't hesitate.

As request, I have delete the officier's name from my post and if a member want to know who is he, I will be happy to share name with him by pm. Christophe

Do you know where is it from please ?

Hi, Very nice medal bar but don't hesitate to show it all. I have found only 11 names of saxon officers who received the St Henry knight cross and silver medal with knight cross 2nd class with X of Albert Order. I have only one name with Anhalt cross : The later Generalmajor was not a flyer !!!, who was second lieutenant in WW1 and serving with IR 181. He received both claps for iron crosses during WW2, and three others WW2 medals. Here is a photo of him, on the left, with his brother Fritz who died during WW1 Christophe

Many thanks.

What a beauty ! Christophe

Very impressive Don. I like it very much. I don't remember you could wear both crosses from the same order. I learn everyday thanks Christophe

I remember this chain and after doing the research, my conclusion is the same as you. too bad that such dealers made such mistakes. Christophe

Oh my God. What a beauty. I don't remember a connection between the Reuß and Brunswick. Probably this officer died before receiving the EK2. Like the Brunswick medals are in first position he was probably born in this Country. Just my 2 cents Christophe

Hi, Very nice Chain, very impressive. Just for information, I agree with Glenn about the commander cross. Indeed the crown to Albert Order is appeared on 19 July 1901. Have to see in the RL to see if there is a match or if GM von Plato is the one here. Christophe

Hi Andreas here is my list SVX SH Günther, Carl Friedrich August Major 05.11.1866 SH3 le 29.09.1870 Klüx, Paul Wolf von Hauptmann 05.11.1866 SH3 le 29.09.1870 Leonhardi, Bernhard August Alban von Oberstleutnant 05.11.1866 SH3 le 29.09.1870 Montbé, Alban von Oberstleutnant 05.11.1866 SH3 le 09.09.1870 Tschirschky u. Bögendorff, Adolf Leopold von Hauptmann 05.11.1866 SH3 le 29.09.1870 Bülow, Hans von Hauptmann 01.10.1870 SH3 le 27.03.1871 Groh, Carl Albrecht Hauptmann 01.10.1870 SH3 le 27.03.1871 Hammerstein, Hans Moritz Frhr von Premier-Leutnant 01.10.1870 SH3 le 27.03.1871 Lossow, Friedrich Wilhelm Ludwig von Hauptmann 01.10.1870 SH3 le 27.03.1871 Nollain, Albert Hauptmann 28.03.1871 SH3 le 29.09.1870 Preußer, Reinhard Rittmeister 01.10.1870 SH3 le 29.09.1870 Schumann, Adolph Oberstleutnant 01.10.1870 SH3 le 27.03.1871 Schuster, Oskar Wilhelm Hauptmann 28.03.1871 SH3 le 29.09.1870 Wolf, Carl August Curt von Hauptmann 01.10.1870 SH3 le 27.03.1871 Zencker Carl August Hauptmann 01.10.1870 SH3 le 27.03.1871 Zeschau, Heinrich Emil von Premier-Leutnant 01.10.1870 SH3 le 29.09.1870 Christophe

I have found some names Oberleutnant Gerhard Berthold Oberleutnant Ernst Gerke Oberleutnant Reinhard Gringmuth OberleutnantWerner Reichel RechnRat topograph Friedrich Schmidt Christophe

I have found 5 saxon officers who received the SH3 during ths Franco-Prussian war but received the Merit Order with X on 1866. 11 saxon officers received the SH3 during the 1870-1871's war and received the Merit order with X on 1870-1871. Christophe

Very nice indeed Christophe

Hi everybody, I have already shown it before. But after doing some small research, I have found only one candidate who was in the Karabiner Regiment (who fought in Finnland in 1918) and who received only the Verdienstkreuz mit X. - Wachtmeister Richard Steiner. If someone has something about him concerning the Finnish ribbon, thanks per advance. Christophe

Kar Regiment in Finland

King of Saxe with JB 13 during the war