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    Komtur

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    1. That is true and was official handling for civil service from the mid 1870ies. This was transferred for personnel in military service in exactly 1904. Regards, Komtur.
    2. It is correct too, that the bow (on 3rd class) and the oak leaves (on 2nd, 1st class and grand cross) was given only to Prussian individuals. REgards, Komtur.
    3. Two example with portrait and bar of active medical officers with a Red Cross Medal: Generalarzt Dr. Hugo Hoenow Generaloberstabsarzt Dr. Martin Merkel
    4. There were awards in his short reign. Virchow got the Red Eagle Order 2nd class with star and oak leafes on 19th of May 1888. 3. Nachtrag zur Königlich Preußischen Ordensliste 1886:
    5. Yes, they are scarce too. I was lucky and found one, when I started collecting medal bars years ago. Unfortunately without a name.
    6. Dr. Alphons Schäfer got the Reuß Cross of Honor 3rd class on 10th of November 1915. This was the birthday of Prince Heinrich XXVII. Reuß j. L. The decoration with crown was awarded mainly to individuals, connected to the reigning house. I suppose, that Dr. Schäfer as specialist and director of the not far located lunatic asylum in Roda was also responsible for the treatment of the because of mental illness incapable of reigning Prince Heinrich XXIV ä. L. Regards, Komtur.
    7. This half side enameled orders were used for constructing medal bars. The owner of the original awarded decoration could buy them for this purpose. The Godet company is known for producing them. Regards, Komtur.
    8. It seems, that these terms were only used for the later 3rd model. But the in 1914 awarded decoration (therefore a 2nd model 3rd class) on the Kinzel bar was identic to the later Knight class.
    9. There are two person with this order: 28.11.1915 Bischoff, KP Major (Stab IR 166) 21.5.1916 Bischoff, Oskar, Major z.D. Regards, Komtur.
    10. Generalleutnant Prinz Karl Anton von Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen Fürst Wilhelm von Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen
    11. There seems to be indeed no primary source. The secondary source Nimmergut (mentioned above) quotes in the case of the Hausorden von Hohenzollern with swords is Hans Möller-Witten. He is the author of Geschichte der Ritter des Ordens pour le mérite im Weltkrieg from 1935. In 1965 Möller-Witten published a short article in the Zeitschrift für Heereskunde about the Hausorden von Hohenzollern mit Schwertern. I add this article in the re-published version of 1980 (from Orden & Militaria Magazin). Another exception for receiving a pour le mérite without a Hausorden von Hohenzollern Ritterkreuz mit Schwertern before is General der Infanterie Roderich von Schöler.
    12. Because of its thickness I have no problem with this very nice cross. There were some different jewelers making this cross over the years: 1852-1859 Hossauer / Berlin, he sold his company to Sy & Wagner in 1859 1859-1887 Sy & Wagner / Berlin, they were to expensive, therefore the princly Hohezollern changed to: 1887-1892 S. Friedeberg Söhne / Berlin, company sold to Gebr. Friedländer in 1892 1892-1910 Gebr. Friedländer / Berlin, they were to expensive, therefore the princly Hohezollern changed to: 1910-???? J.G. Zimmerer Sohn / Sigmaringen, probable they did not produce the order by themthelves, but bought them from the company Zimmermann / Pforzheim ????-???? J. Godet & Sohn / Berlin, late producers, probably as recently as after 1918 ????-???? Gebr. Hemmerle / München, late producers, probably as recently as after 1918 Even if we can assume, that Hossauer gave his tools to Sy&Wagner in 1859 and S. Friedeberg did the same to Gebr. Friedländer in 1892, there should be at least five different versions of this order over the time. There are documents indicating, that very often returned decorations were repaired and awarded again. Therefore we must also expect chimaeras between different versions. Source (very recommendable): Link, Eva and Gauggel, Heinz: Fürstlich Hohenzollernsche Orden und Ehrenzeichen. Fridingen 1985. Regards, Komtur. PS: So please, before smashing it, send it back to old Germany
    13. Yes, that´s the one I own and had a cursory glance on it just now looking out for a supect person. But without luck and I am afraid, that he most of his decorations got later than 1907. But you are perfectly right, that is the only source we can use until now for that case.
    14. It should be a person in service for the Duchy Saxe-Coburg and Gotha because of position 2, 4 and 5 of the bar. Additionaly there is a tight connection to Bulgaria via Zar Ferdinand from the catholic tribe of this family. Therefore the linked Court and State book from the Grandduchy Saxe (-Weimar) in post 13 will not be of much use. Unfortunately there seem to be no later Court and State book of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha then 1907. I am afraid that the person we are looking for got most of his decorations after 1907, so we will have no luck with this source. He was a NCO for some years, but after this he must be in a higher civil rank, may be in personel connection with the ducal family of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. They gave their familiy order as well after 1918 till the early 1930-ies. May be he got the knight 2nd class of the house order in that time.
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