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    Paul R

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    1. Hi Jim, Those are some great photos. I especially like the top one. Any idea where they were?
    2. Mine does not have this damage. I got mine from Igor back in 1993.
    3. You know... Lifesaving medals would be a great topic to focus a database on. There is a great variety.
    4. I do not have much information about this obscure section of the Luftwaffe. If anyone has anything to add... photos, insignia, documents, anything... please do so!
    5. Uniforms/Insignia Men temporarily assigned to this specialty title were prescribed the usual LW uniforms and equipment. The prescribed waffenfarbe for this group was orange. This was reflected on the collar tabs and on the underlay of the shoulderboards. The allowed cyphers were silver toned, instead of the normally associated gold. The cyphers possible were: Medical Officers- Caduceus Officers at Service of the RLM- "RLM" All other officers at service- were indicated by the Roman Numeral of the member's (Air Area) Luftkreis and later by the number of the Air Disctrict Command(Luftgaukommando). Officers of the Air District Command(Sea) wore the Latin "S" Insignia are from the Garth Thompson Collection
    6. Luftwaffe Officers at Service (Offiziere zur Dienstleistung) This branch was established on 9Apr1938. This was meant to separate officers and medical officers who are awaiting posting. Unfortunately, there is no other information that I have been able to find, thus far. These men were also referred to as Half Pay Officers, as they only drew 1/2 the pay of other members of their paygrade, until they were in a permanent position(and took their proper branch waffenfarbe)
    7. Anyone having anything to add, please do so. I am looking for uniforms, insignia, documents, anything pertaining to this group of officials. Thanks in advance. PaulR
    8. Junior officers were eligible for it too, at least I thought they were.
    9. Amazing photos! Thank you all for the clarification. One thing that I have noticed is that I do not see any photos of men who were enlisted in BOTH WW1 and WW2. Would that not be the most amazing group! Someone who was a Cavalier of both awards?? Not completely out of the realm of possibility! He could be in his early 40s! Paul
    10. Were these men allowed to wear their medals once the Communist Regime gained power?
    11. Uniforms and Insignia These men wore the Luftwaffe uniforms, badged as an Official at an officer level. Collar tabs: The collar tabs were the dark green administrative type, with piping variations based upon level. For more details on this, please review the Luftwaffe Administrative Officials article, where this is discussed in length. Shoulderboards: The shoulder boards were those used by the Luftwaffe Administrative officials. The base waffenfarbe was dark green and the center nebenfarbe was wine red. The boards had gold colored metal cyphers with the Roman letters, "GFP".
    12. Luftwaffe Secret Field Police The Luftwaffe Secret Field Police (Geheime Feldpolizei der Luftwaffe) was established on the 5Nov1943. Members were carried over from either the Reich's Security Police or the Heer's Secret Field Police. The members were given the status of Officials. Their duties ranged from pursuit and arrest of personnel suspected of treasonous activities, spies, and saboteurs to internal affairs, execution of security measures, and investigation for courts martial cases. There were three different career levels: Medium Career- Feldpolizeisekertar(Leutnant) Feldpolizeiobersekertar(OberLeutnant) Elevated Career- Feldpolizeiinspektor(Obereutnant) Feldpolizeikommissar(Hautpmann) High Grade Career- Feldpolizeidirektor(Major) Oberfeldpolizeidirektor(Oberstleutnant) There were also regular LW men assigned with the GFP that served in menial positions, such as clerks and drivers, but nothing is known about any special insignia or uniforms.
    13. Awesome thread!!! Here is the best I can do... I still cannot get the Carmine to show up in the photos!!! It looks like an Arty tunic.... I call it... "DIVERSITY WITHIN THE RANKS"
    14. Here are a set of insignias from the Bob Hritz Collection(Thanks Bob). An LSW/SHD Zugfuhrer(Leutnant) and LSW Warnzentraleoberfurhrer/SHD Abteilungsfuhrer(Major)
    15. From Rick Research- SHD was changed into the Luftschutzpolizei sometime in 1942, if I remember correctly. They kept using Luftwaffe uniforms, but the insignia changed completely to normal Schutzpolizei insignia. I have never been able to find a LSP green sleeve eagle on Luftwaffe uniform backing. Tabs from Zugwachtmeister (LSP) Johann Jacobs, born in 1882 and a Vizefeldwebel aD from the Imperial army. He served in Bremen in the firefighting branch of the SHD/LSP 1939-45:
    16. National Air Protection League(RLB) This organization was primary function was to serve as an Air Defense force, during a period when Germany was prohibited from having an Air Force by the Treaty of Versailles. The Reichsluftschutzbund was created in 1933. When the Luftwaffe came out of hiding in 1935, the RLB was primarily used for educating the public on safety and protection, in regard to air raids. As the war waned on, the roles as well as the size of the RLB dissolved into a shadow of it's former being. Other roles played by the RLB were mainly non-combat support roles such as ground crew training and search and rescue. The RLB was under the control of the RLM(Reichs Air Ministry). RLB-Pr?sident- Generalfeldmarschall General-Hauptluftschutzf?hrer- General Generalluftschutzf?hrer - Generalmajor Oberstluftschutzf?hrer- Oberst Oberststabsluftschutzf?hrer- Oberstleutnant Stabsluftschutzf?hrer- Major Hauptluftschutzf?hrer - Hauptmann Oberluftschutzf?hrer - Oberleutnant Luftschutzf?hrer- Leutnant Luftschutzobertruppmeister- Feldwebel Luftschutztruppmeister - Unteroffizier Luftschutzobertruppwart - Hauptgefreiter Luftschutztruppwart- Obergefreiter Luftschutzobertruppmann- Gefreiter Luftschutztruppmann- Flieger They had their own distinct uniforms and insignia. The branch color of the RLB was Lilac. This color was displayed on the collar tabs and as an underlay on the shoulder boards. The below link gives a great illustration of rank insignia and uniform of the RLB. http://chrito.users1.50megs.com/uniformen/heer/rlb/rlb.htm Here are a couple collar tab examples. Luftschutz Truppmeister(Feldwebel) Luftschutz-Oberf?hrer(Oberleutnant)
    17. Security and Assistance Sevice(SHD) The SHD was established around the beginning of the war. Its role was to help in the aftermath of an air raid, with the rescue of persons and when possible, property. It was also tasked with ensuring security and guidance during air raids. Due to manpower shortages, the ranks were filled with "draftees". Members were exempted from military service yet not allowed to hold other employment. SHD units were housed in barracks, with a rotation that allowed half of the unit?s personnel to be at home, if the situation allowed. Specific duties included firefighting, rubble clearance, urban search and rescue, building stabilization, medical services, and the procurement and delivery of supplies. Motorized SHD battalions were established on 25November1939. Members were transferred in from the police and fire police to fill the ranks. On 10Mar1942, the motorized SHD Battalions were transferred to the Luftwaffe and re-designated the motorized Air Protection Battalions. They fell under the Luftwaffe Construction Branch. At this point, these former SHD members had found themselves with full soldier status within the ranks of the Luftwaffe(I bet they were surprised). These men had the Black Waffenfarbe and had the letters "LS" on the shouldboards and straps. Officers used the gold metal cyphers, NCOs used the silver toned cyphers, and enlisted had the "LS" embroidered using black thread, outlined in white. Cities and towns were given a classification based upon the degree of risk of being assaulted, but this was abolished in 1943. Rankings became that of the regular Luftwaffe. On the 19th of March 1942, the non motorized SHD was transferred to the Police reserve and renamed the Air Protection Police. This new organization fell under the control of the Police. Insignia: There were two types of collar tabs. 1. Officer. It consisted of a dark green tab, with wire embroidered "SHD". The tab has a silver twist cord outer piping, as seen on officer tabs. All officer ranks used this tab. 2. The enlisted version has a dark green face with a white or gray thread embroidered "SHD". The tab is piped with the green/silver piping as seen on Medium level Luftwaffe Administrative Officials Feldwebel tabs. Ranking designations: Armbands Starting in mid 1939, the primary indicator of rank of the SHD uniform was on armbands. These armbands were dark green with the Gothic inscription embroidered "Sicherheits-u. Hilfdienst" in white, broken into two rows. This armband was worn on the upper Left sleeve. The follow are the grades and how they were shown on the arm band. Grade 1- Basic dark green armband with the SHD designation Grade 2- Same as above but with 8cm long narrow tresse on the upper edge of the band. Grade 3- Same as above but with a narrow strip of tress along the upper edge of the band. Grade 4- Same as above but with 8cm long tress and the edge tress in Grade 3. Grade 5- Same as Grade 1 with narrow tress around both the upper and lower edges of the band. Grade 6- Same as Grade 1 with 1.5cm wide tresse around upper edge. Grade 7- Same as Grade 1 with wide tress along both edges. Grade 8- Same as Grade 7 but with narrow tress around the center of the armband and open between the rows of inscription. Grade 9- Same as Grade 8 but with 1.5 tresse along the center of the band.(Was not actually introduced) Shoulder boards Until 1940, the SHD used armbands to distinguish rank. Sometime in 1940, the SHD adopted the LSW like shoulder boards. Like the LSW, actual rank of the member was reflected by the shoulder insignia. The shoulder boards were made of a flat cord, which formed a sling for buttoning onto the tunic. The underlay was a dark green material. Shoulder boards were worn on both shoulders. The rankings were as follow: Enlisted: SHD Mann(Private)- 2 cords of dark green flat cord SHD Truppfuhrer(Grefeiter)- Same as above but with the addition of 1 silver pip SHD Gruppenfuhrer(Unteroffizier)- Same as above, but with the addition of 2 silver pips. SHD Innendiesnstleiter(Hautfeldwebel)- 2 cords of dark green flat cord with silver border. Officer: SHD Zugfuhrer(Leutnant)- 2 aluminum cords with interwoven center stripe of green cord or threads. SHD Bereitschaftfuhrer(Hauptmann)- Same as above but with two gold pips SHD Abteilungsfuhrer(Major)- Same type of braiding as the Zugfuhrer, but braided into a linear knot. SHD Abteilungsfuhrer(Oberstleutnant)- Same as the Major, but with the addition of one gold pip. Medical leaders had cyphers, which set them apart. Doctor- Gold Staff and snake Dentist- Gold Staff and snake with the letter "z" below Pharmacist- Gold letter "A" Veterinarian- Gold snake Trade badges: Medical Service- White staff and snake on a blue-gray cloth circled by a green border. Wreckage Service- White anchor on a blue base with a green border. Fire Brigade and Decon Service- White Gothic "f" on a red base with a light green border. Maintenance Service- White Gothic "I" on a brown base and green border. Veterinary Service- White Gothic "V" on purple base with a light green border. Gas Detection Service- Black letter "G" on a yellow base with a light green border. Unknown: White "St" on a dark green base with a light green border
    18. Air Warning Service(LSW) This branch was established in 1935. The role of this organization was to provide warning to the various cities and towns of incoming air raids. There was a female branch, known as the Auxiliaries of the Air Warning Service. Insignia: Collar tabs There were three types of collar tabs. Two were Officer levels and the last was enlisted. 1. The first grade of officer has an unknown ranking level. It consisted of a dark green tab, with wire embroidered "LSW" above an embroidered half wreath, as seen on Luftwaffe Junior Officer collar tabs. The tab has a silver twist cord outer piping, as seen on officer tabs. Again, the ranks associated with this tab are unknown at this time. 2. The second type is the same as above, but without the half wreath. 3. The enlisted version has a dark green face with a white or gray thread embroidered "LSW". The tab is piped with the green/silver piping as seen on Medium level Luftwaffe Administrative Officials Feldwebel tabs. Shoulder boards The actual rank of the member was reflected by the shoulder insignia. The shoulder boards were made of a flat cord, which formed a sling for buttoning onto the tunic. The underlay was a dark green material. The rankings were as follow: Enlisted: LSW Mann- 2 cords of dark green flat cord LSW Truppfuhrer- Same as above but with the addition of 1 silver pip LSW Gruppenfuhrer- Same as above, but with the addition of 2 silver pips. LSW Hauptgruppenfuhrer- 2 cords of dark green flat cord with silver border and 1 silver pip. LSW Stabsgruppenfuhrer- Same as LSW Hauptgruppenfuhrer but 2 silver pips. Officer: LSW Zugfuhrer- 2 aluminum cords with interwoven center stripe of green cord or threads. LSW Oberzugfuhrer- Same as above but with the addition of one gold pip. LSW Warnzentralefuhrer- Same as above but with two gold pips. LSW Warnzentraleoberfurhrer- Same type of braiding as the Zugfuhrer, but braided into a linear knot. Cuff titles A 5cm green cuff title was to be worn on the lower Left sleeve. Embroidered was, "L.S. Warndienst". There were enlisted and Officer versions. Female auxiliaries utilized an armband with "L.S. Warndienst". Trade Badges Trade badges were worn on the upper left sleeve. They were comprised of a green oval with two crossed lightening bolts and "LSW" embroidered above them. This was for communication personnel. Wreckage Service- White anchor on a blue base with a green border. Fire Brigade and Decon Service- White Gothic "f" on a red base with a light green border. Maintenance Service- White Gothic "I" on a brown base and green border. Veterinary Service- White Gothic "V" on purple base with a light green border. Gas Detection Service- Black letter "G" on a yellow base with a light green border.
    19. Uniforms: Members of the LSW and SHD were authorized to use Standard Luftwaffe uniforms with their own insignia. These uniforms had special designations of their own. LS Rock(four pocket tunic) LS Bluse(Fliegerbluse) LS Mantel(Overcoat) These two units shared the LS breast insignia, helmets with insignia, belt buckles, and cap insignia. Here is an example of the Chest insignia: The RLB had it's own completely different uniforms and insignia, which I will get into later.
    20. Home Air Raid Protection and Rescue Branches- SHD, LSW, and RLB The purpose of this thread is to explore the little reviewed areas of the German Air Raid Early Warning, Rescue and Recovery Services. These units were uniformed civilian auxiliaries of the Luftwaffe. These organizations were all under the control of the Reichs Air Ministry(RLM). These organizations were: Air Warning Service(Luftschutz Warndienst- LSW) Security and Assistance Service(Sicherheits und Hilfsdienst- SHD) Air Protection Police(Luftshcultzpolizei) The Air Protection League was a different organization whose role was to teach the public about air raid procedures. As the war waned on, this organization's usefulness dissolved, as did its ranks. Despite these organizations initially being volunteer, as the war progressed manpower became scarcer. As a result, personnel were actually conscripted to fill the ranks.
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