Dave Danner

Another thread with a German svärdsmän, Obermusikmeister Heinrich Schrader: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/20840-a-man-with-many-awards-but/page__gopid__479998#entry479998 Can you confirm the award?

Reviving an old thread to add some information: This would indeed appear to be Heinrich Schrader of the 4.GRzF (1860-1931). As for the last three ribbons, based on the attached biography, they are: (7) China, Order of the Double Dragon - probably IV Class based on rank,CDIV in the Prussian ranklists (8) Sweden, Order of the Sword, Sword Sign (Svärdstecknet) - SS4, a recipient was called a "swordsman", svärdsmän in Swedish, Schwertmann in German (9) Japan, Order of the Rising Sun - probably Knight 2nd Class/6th Class, or JV6 As for (5), this is not Lippe. Another one of those hard-to-read ones because of the color shift on black-and-white photographs, but this should be the Gold Merit Medal from Mecklenburg-Strelitz, which Schrader received on 21 July 1914.

In the Army: Feldwebel/Wachtmeister, Vizefeldwebel/Vizewachtmeister, Unterarzt, Unterveterinär, Oberfeuerwerker Edit to add: If on the ribbon for war merit, to officials in the master craftsman grades, for example: Waffenmeister, Feldbackmeister, Feldpostschaffner Also, later in the war, the 2nd Class might be a second award for someone more junior who had already received the Third Class with Crown (which normally went to Unteroffiziere, Sergeants, and the equivalent).

I would prefer "discharge" over "dismissal". To me, dismissal makes it seem like he was kicked out.

Hopefully, this should help: http://www.fraternellechasseursardennais.be/mesa/mesa-2.html

Some info on Gren.-Ers.-Btl. 492: http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gliederungen/InfErsBat/InfErsBat492-R.htm

The Sebastian Wagensonner born 3 December 1897 was in the Infanterie-Leib-Regiment.

A small update to the Krause/Lundström volume on Princely Hohenzollern decorations, but one which might be of interest to one of the authors.... Under the Goldene Ehrenmedaille mit Schwertern is an entry for "Krause, Vfw., 11./2.GRzF" That would be:

I guess I can add a couple of small details after all... It's Rudolph, not Rudolf. Oskar Bruno Rudolph, born 5.9.1885 in Passenheim, Kreis Ortelsburg, East Prussia. He was the son of Julius Rudolph, a Gendarmeriewachtmeister a.D. in Neustettin, who died on 18.8.1930, and Auguste née Schulz, who died on 12.11.1906. Oskar was married on 12.12.1918 in Neustettin to Agnes Sommer, born 4.4.1890, daughter of Reinhold Sommer, a Kaufmann in Neustettin. Oskar entered the army on 118.10.1903 as a Freiwilliger in a Fußartillerie Regiment (the number isn't legible, but it looks like FußAR 13). He was promoted to Obergefreiter on 18.9.04 and Unteroffizier on 19.9.05. He was promoted to Feuerwerker on 1.1.09 and transferred to the Artillerie-Depot Danzig. He then served in various Artillerie-Depots, and was promoted to Oberfeuerwerker on 1.10.12 and Feuerwerks-Leutnant on 30.5.14. After mobilization, he was assigned to the staff of several Fußartillerie-Regiments and to the Generalkommando XVIII.Armeekorps. After the war, on entering the Reichsheer, he was assigned to the Depot-Inspektion of the Feldzeugmesiterei. He was characterized an Oberleutnant on 17.8.20 and transferred to the Zeugamt Königsberg. He was discharged on 15.4.21 due the reductions in the German armed forces, but came back a short while later on 15.6.21. He was promoted to Oberleutnant beim Zeugamt on 28.9.21, with effect from 1.7.21, and was later given an RDA of 25.2.15 (2). He was promoted to Hauptmann beim Zeugamt on 1.2.28 (I'm not sure about the RDA, but it looks like 18.4.17 (31)). He went to the Munitions-Institut Ingolstadt in 1930. He was promoted to Major (W) on 1.10.33 with an RDA of 1.8.30 (3) and was named Vorstand of the Zeugamt Ingolstadt on 23.12.33 with effect from 1.2.34. On 20.4.35, he became an Oberstleutnant (W) with effect from 1.4.35 and an RDA of 1.4.34 (33). In 1936 he went to the Heeres-Feldzeugmeisterei V. He was promoted to Oberst (W) on 31.12.38 with effect from 1.1.39. On 16.2.39, with effect from 1.3.39, he became leader, then commander of Feldzeugstab (Fest) F beim Generalkommando der Grenztruppen Oberrhein. From 4.10.40 to 28.9.41, he was leader of the Feldzeugarbeitsstab Elsaß in Straßburg. On 29.9.41, he went to Feldzeuggruppe 1. I don't know why he disappeared from the ranklist, but he was with Feldzeuggruppe 1 until 6.2.44. There is a hard-to-read entry that seems to say he may have been retired from active duty but remained in the position; however, his March 1944 evaluation report lists him as an active officer. On 7.2.44 he was transferred to the Feldzeuginspizient des Ersatzheeres. On 12.11.44 he was transferred to the staff of the Stellv. Generalkommando X.Armeekorps and tasked as Feldzeug commander (m.d.W.d.G. des Feldzeugkommandeurs beauftragt). That is the last entry in his personnel file. Decorations: EK2 (28.3.15) ÖM3K (2.8.15) EK1 (13.3.16) VAs (4.8.18) HT (19.8.18) The Wehrmacht/Heer long service (WHDA) and the Honor Cross for Combatants (FKE) aren't listed in his file, but presumably as an active officer at the time he got the FKE in December 1934 and the WHDA1 on 2.10.36. His World War Two decorations were: Schutzwall-Ehrenzeichen (15.3.40, Nr. 15188) KVK2X (20.11.40) KVK1X (17.2.44) Here is his file photo:

Erwin Jaenecke 22.4.1890-3.7.1960 Generalmajor - 1.11.39 Generalleutnant - 1.11.41 General der Pioniere - 1.11.42 Generaloberst - 30.1.44 Bio: http://de.wikipedia..../Erwin_Jaenecke BIo: http://www.lexikon-d...J/JaeneckeE.htm Bio: http://www.geocities...ECKE_ERWIN.html Signature from his personnel file:

A few years in coming, but here is a picture of Franz Rudolf Jonkheer de Casembroot:

My hosting service decided to stop hosting websites. I didn't close it down, but basically had it closed down on me. I hope to put it back up soon.

Several places, mainly the Militär-Wochenblatt, DOA and some genealogy resources.

Apparently, he died on 28 November 1953. He and Else Freiin von Berg were divorced in 1925. They also had another son, Erwin, but he died in childhood (30 July 1895-24 July 1901).

Erwin Ludwig von Steinberg, born in Oberkirch, Baden, on 17 May 1867. Married 4 October 1894 to Luise Agnes Gustava Elsbeth (Else) Freiin von Berg. After leaving active duty, they lived in Eschenhof bei Winterbach, Baden. They had one son, Heinz Martin Alexander Erwin Bernhard, born 4 April 1909 in Eschenhof. 16.05.1888 - Portepée-Fähnrich, 1.GFAR 15.01.1889 - Sek.-Lieut., 1.GFAR 15.02.1890 - transferred to Reserve of 1.GFAR, commanded to FAR 15 19.05.1891 - returned to active duty with FAR 15, with Patent of 15.02.1889 18.08.1896 - Prem.-Lieut., transferred to FAR 10 01.04.1899 - commanded to the Great General Staff for one year 01.04.1900 - transferred to FAR 46 01.10.1900 - promoted to Hauptmann (no Patent) 01.04.1903 - transferred to FAR 14 as a Batterie-Chef 27.01.1904 - Patent as Hauptmann (P3p) 17.11.1906 - Retired 14.11.1916 - char. Major Besides the BZ3bXE Christoph noted above, he also had a peacetime RAO4, Centenary, and BZ3bXE. With wartime service, he probably would have qualified for the DA25 by 1918. Regards, Dave

Walter Chales de Beaulieu 14.6.1898-26.8.1974 Generalmajor (1.6.43) Generalleutnant (20.6.44) Ia, XVI. Armeekorps Chef d. Generalstabes d. XVI. Armeekorps Chef d. Generalstabes d. Panzergruppe 4 Chef d. Generalstabes d. 4. Panzerarmee Kdr. Pz.Gren.Rgt. 394 Kdr. 26. Pz.Gren.Brig. Fhr., then Kdr. 168. Inf.Div. Kdr. 23. Inf.Div. Bio: http://www.reocities.com/~orion47/WEHRMACHT/HEER/Generalleutnant/CHALES_WALTER.html Signature on an evalation report for Oberstlt. Paul Spoida, Kdr. Gren.Rgt. 417

Felmy, Hellmuth 28.5.1885-14.12.1965 General der Flieger Oberbefehlshaber der Luftflotte 2 Chef Sonderstab F (Deutsche Militärmission nach dem Irak) Militärbefehlshaber Südgriechenland Komm. Gen. Generalkommando.z.B.V. Felmy Komm. Gen. LXVIII. Armeekorps Komm. Gen. XXXIV. Armeekorps Deutsches Kreuz in Gold (DKiG) - 16.1.1945 Bio: https://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Personenregister/F/FelmyHellmuth.htm Bio: http://www.geocities...Y_HELLMUTH.html Bio: http://de.wikipedia..../Hellmuth_Felmy Evaluation report for Maj. Walter von Gal, Adj. LXVIII.A.K.

Paulus, Friedrich 23.9.1890-1.1.1957 Generalfeldmarschall Chef d. Generalstabes d. 10. Armee Chef d. Generalstabes d. 6. Armee Oberquartiermeister I, Generalstab des Heeres Oberbefehlshaber 6. Armee Bio: http://www.lexikon-d...er/P/Paulus.htm Bio: http://www.reocities.com/orion47.geo/WEHRMACHT/HEER/Generalfeldmarschall/PAULUS_FRIEDRICH.html Evaluation report for Gen.Lt. (later Gen.d.Art.) Max Pfeffer

Rundstedt, Karl Rudolf Gerd von 12.12.1875-24.2.1953 Generalfeldmarschall Oberbefehlshaber Heeresgruppe Süd, September-October 1939 Oberbefehlshaber Ost, October 1939 Oberbefehlshaber Heeresgruppe A, October 1939-October 1940 Oberbefehlshaber West, October 1940-June 1941 Oberbefehlshaber Heeresgruppe Süd, June 1941-December 1941 Oberbefehlshaber West, March 1942-July 1944, September 1944-March 1945 Bio: http://www.lexikon-d...RundstedtGv.htm Bio: http://www.reocities.com/orion47.geo/WEHRMACHT/HEER/Generalfeldmarschall/RUNDSTEDT_GERD.html Endorsement to evaluation report on Gen.d.Art. Kurt Gallenkamp:

Ferdinand Schaal 7.2.1889-9.10.1962 General der Panzertruppe Kdr. 10.Pz.-Div. Fhr. XXXIV. Armeekorps Komm. Gen. LVI.Panzerkorps Befehlshaber in Wehrkreis Böhmen u. Mähren & Bevollmächtigter b. Reichsprotektor in Böhmen und Mähren Ritterkreuz des Eisernen Kreuzes (RK) - 13. Juli 1941 Deutsches Kreuz in Gold (DKiG) - 8. März 1942 Bio: http://www.lexikon-d...alFerdinand.htm Bio: http://www.reocities.com/~orion47/WEHRMACHT/HEER/General2/SCHAAL_FERDINAND.html Signature on an officer evaluation report:

Wickede, Thomas-Emil von 23.04.1893-23.06.1944 General der Infanterie Kdr. II./Inf.-Regt. 4 Kdr. Inf.-Regt. 4 Kdr. Inf.-Regt. 409 Kdr. 30. Inf.-Div. Fhr. X. Armeekorps Komm. Gen. X. Armeekorps Bio: http://www.lexikon-d...ThomasEmilv.htm Bio: http://www.geocities...CKEDE_EMIL.html

One more for Veiel, from March 1944.

This would be very interesting and a great addition to the realm of knowledge! Do you have just the years or the full award dates?

I can't find the specific thread, but my understanding/recollection is that the thicker edge was on those wartime/late-war pieces which no longer had real gold on the center medallions, but silver-gilt.

Not that I know of. I just found some information while researching the families "von der Groeben" and "Graf von der Groeben".