Bretzen

Hello laurentius, unfortunately I can't confirm the awarding of the Bulgarian decoration either - at least not yet. If you have not yet looked up the book "Deutscher Ordensalmanch 1908/09", I can give you the following entry in this book about Ludwig Göbel (Goebel) on page 463: "Göbel, Ludwig, Großh. Hess. Stat. Vorsteh. I.Kl., Wetzlar (Hungen, Hess. 2. 8. 51): HssP4b * HssEEz25." This means that, according to his own statements, Göbel only possessed the two Hessian honours in 1909. Cheers Uwe

hello gentlemen, I would like to show you a breast star as awarded by Simeon II in exile. Made by the jeweller Cejalvo in Madrid. The French import hallmarks suggest that it was awarded to France. I would be delighted if other collectors have other pieces from this period in their collections, and of course want to show them here. I would also be pleased to receive informations - also about possible sales in auctions. I am also asking for confirmation of the swan hallmark. My information is that this hallmark with the swan and the two lines was introduced by France in 1984 as a guarantee hallmark for 800/1000 silver. I look forward to receiving answers. With kind regards Uwe aka Bretzen

Hi Peter, Hi Peter, excuse me, but that is a very general statement. Can you please be more specific, for example with catalogue numbers from the auction? This might help one or the other buyer (I also bought) to recognise a possible mistake. Kind regards Uwe

Hi Igor, But you should also write in your post, that at Hermann Historica in Munich this specimen was described as a copy and a collector's item!! Regards Uwe

Hi Peter, Thank you very much for your information and the effort with the photos. I understood almost everything you wrote. What I do not see is the information: "The Only difference was with the crosses with swords above the cross During the regency the Crown has arms -like this 5th Class on the second picture on the picture". Can you please explain this in more detail? I show another case to the III class of the Order of St. Alexander.

Hello Gentlemen, I have a case for the 4th class of the Order of St. Alexander. As far as I know, it is a case from the time of the regency (Simeon II.) 1943 - 1946. The inlay clearly shows a crown and NOT a wreath. I understand the first three lines of the imprint on the lid: Order St. Alexander IV. Class - but please what does the fourth line mean? Thank you Uwe (Bretzen)

hello gentlemen, is there a difference in the minting of the medals before 1946 and after 1946? @steveBobby, can you please send better pictures from your medal?!

Hi SteveBobby, a really great photo! Uwe

Hi Dave, here a picture from my collection in good quality with hith signature and dated 1913. It is true, he is NOT wearing a Regierungsjubiläumsmedaille.. The Württemberg Military Handbook of 1913 on page 224 lists v. Dorrer without! Government Jubilee Medal.

Order for Civil Merit, Cross 1st class for Ladys. ........I think enough republic for a day! 😇

Order for Civil Merit, Cross 3rd class for Ladys in case.

Order for Military Merit, 6th class with tied wreath

Order of St. Alexander, Cross 6th class

May I suggest that we first focus on the early cases for crosses with round crowns. For these early cases, I can identify four different coat of arms embossings. And all cases are made by Johann Schwerdtner. Of course, not only are the four coat of arms imprints different, but the manufacture of the cases is also different accordingly. But before you now think, he is completely drunk, I would like to hear or read your opinion about it. And three more photos to look at.

Hello, unfortunately I only found time to look at this post again today and I'm thrilled at how much of a response it has already received. I understand ilieff's concerns, but I see it just like new world. I am very sure that you cannot counterfeit these cases unless you have the right old paper, the right fabric, and most importantly! - the original embossing stamp for printing is available. Re-manufacturing the embossing stamp is almost impossible and far too expensive. I say, really good photos to recognize an original is very important! Anyone can then easily recognize a fake. Never the right paper in the right production period will be found on a forgery. Example coat of arms: Never will a forger be able to reproduce something like that. - Not the type of paper - not the embossing stamp The only thing needed is enough time of the collector to look at the offer. Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator

Major d.L. a.D. Lindner, Photo circa 1936. HoH X am 16. october 1917

Hello Forum, I have a thought that has been on my mind for a long time. I would like to start a post where all members show their cases to the civil merit order. And in addition give the time estimate - if possible. I don't know, if there has been such a post in the past her on the forum. If so, please give me the link, then I will enjoy reading the post and learn something. But if this post is of interest, I would be very happy to have the largest and most diverse participation possible. What is your opinion on such a venture? I'm asking for honest opinions. If it is not interesting, you can remove this post. Regards Bretzen This is how I could imagine it. 1. Illustration of the lid. 2. Possibly an enlargement of the imprint. 3. If present, the manufacturer on the inside. 4. And the dimensions, length x width. This case: 35.5 cm x 13.0 cm.

Hi, a non-combattant bar with all kinds of accessories. Regards Bretzen

Königlich Württembergischer Generalmajor z.D. Kurt Freiherr von Watter.

Gentlemen ilieff and Graf, I would like to thank both of you for the detailed texts, which really helped me. I have paid very little attention to this topic in the past and would now like to try to clear up the whole thing with the help of the gentlemen in this forum. ilieff - unfortunately my cross and the certificate did not come together, but both individual purchases. I would now like to show two crosses of the 3rd class. To my shame I must confess that before this post I did not realize that there are two variants. Both crosses are of the second variant, that is, with four clovers. remarkable I find that both have the same markings as my 1st grade. Although !! the medallion had to be recut. Questions: Can we say that both variants are from Rothe? Are there any 2nd or 3rd class crosses with five clovers? I hope for more participation and many answers. Cheers Uwe Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version) ...and the second cross 3rd class:

Hi Peter, thank you for your information. I would like to present here the 1st class with award case with as good photos as possible. Of course I have questions about it again. Gladly I hear your answer and if possible also from other Collectors. .....does the ribbon ring also have these two hallmarks? As on a side "FR" for Jeweler Rothe in Vienna? On the other side the greyhound head hallmark and a "3" for 800/1000 silver? And my last, but almost most important question for today: Medallion of the back. Does your copy also have this minting defect? (see red circle). I would be happy if other collectors can also look at their pieces and kindly post an answer here. Regards

Gentlemen, I would like to present a certificate and I have some questions about it. It is - allegedly - the award certificate 1st class to the commemorative cross/medal for Prince Ferdinand's accession to the throne. Is this correct? The name should read: "I. D. Stanschevu". Is that correct? Is this person known in Bulgaria? I also note the award number "90". It would be nice to post here many contributions to this decoration. I look forward to messages. With kind regards Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

And a "certificate of ownership" for the commander of the 4th Mountain Division, Major General Karl Eglseer. He received on July 15, 1941 !!! the Order of St. Alexander 2nd class with swords in the center. The document is issued in Berlin with original signature "Keitel". But it is not the signature of Field Marshal Wilhelm Keitel, but of his brother Bodewin Keitel.

Gentlemen, my modest contribution to the documents, especially to the Military Order for Bravery, but also other various authorizations to accept Bulgarian awards. First, two documents issued by different people, but on the same day in the same unit. ............ and a soldier's cross 1st class

A few more pages from the Wehrpaß of Karl Sauter: