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Oberleutnant Petzel 1942-1943 Kdr Sturmboot-Kommando (mot.) 912 Image: Soldbuch

Hello Phil and welcome to the forum and the paperwork section. Feel free to browse and contribute whenever you wish and don't forget to check out the signature database also. Enjoy your time here.

It is the Roman Numeral for 1. Here are the others... Ia Erster Generalstabsoffizier (Chief of Operations) Ib Zweiter Generalstabsoffizier (Quartermaster) Ib/Kfz Kraftfahrzeugoffizier (Division Motor Pool Officer) Ib/WuG Waffen- und Geräte-Offizier (Arms and Equipment Officer) Ic Dritter Generalstabsoffizier (Chief Intelligence Officer) i.G. im Generalstab (of Generalstaff) IIa Divisionsadjutant (Division Adjutant) IIb Officer for personnel means, enlisted men and NCOs IVa Divisionsintendant (Division Commissariat Section) IVb Divisionsarzt (Division Surgeon) IVc Divisionsveterinär (Division Veterinarian) IVd Divisionspfarrer (Division Chaplains) IVz Stabszahlmeister (Monetary matters)

The Operations Officer (or Chief Of Operations) was referred to as the Ia.

I'm afraid that the 'Beamte' area of the Wehrmacht isn't something I know much about so can't be of much help but I would think the Administrator side could cover many different branches.

You have the rank correct. Three stripes is a Korvettenkapitän (2 & a half stripes would be a Kapitänleutnant and 4 stripes is a Fregattenkapitän). I can't quite make out the full details of the sleeve eagle on the cuff but if it is 2 stripes under the eagle than he is a 'Verwaltungsbeamte des gehobenen Dienstes'.

Unfortunately he isn't listed in Lohmann & Hildebrand's Die Deutsche Kriegsmarine Vol III, nor is he listed on the KM crew list site or in the Volksbund database.

And another one... http://www.regimentals.co.uk/viewphoto.php?shoph=53647&phqu=7

There have been a couple of Kleist hand-signed citations on the market in the last couple of months and they tend to be quite cheap (I've yet to see a single example for more than 100 Euros). There is a Gebirgsjäger Pionier set here... http://www.military-antiques-stockholm.com/index.asp?contentpage=showproduct&page=1&id=15418&kategori=175

Well, the signature of Walter Assmann does match the example I have seen when he signed as an Oberst. As for the stamp it could be caused by too much ink on it when used, or maybe just a badly maintained one where 'gunk' has built up between the letters to spoil it. The Kleist signature isn't actually a hand signed example. The Kubanschild citations were signed off by using a stamped version ofhis signature. At the end of the day it all comes down to what you are comfortable with - if you have any doubts than why chance it? The market is awash with citation groupings at the moment, and alot of them are at decent prices, so another one will come along sooner rather than later if you decide to turn this one down.

Two nice examples Franz.

Hello Franz - welcome to the Forum. I'm sure there are plenty of members who would like to see your images.

Certainly sounds interesting. You should place an ad in the Trade section. In C you mention it is in a more simple style - do you mean it doesn't contain the same amount of information as in Keilig's book or just the presentation of the information is different? Is it possible to provide a screen shot of a page from each so people can see a sample from them?

Nice example. That belongs to Hauptmann Hanns Baier who as a Major commanded Fallsch. Fla MG-Btl at Crete in 1941.

I'd say that it does indeed belong to Kurt von Pannwitz, commander of Fliegerhorst-Kommandantur E (v) 203/III at the wars end.

Both signatures belong to Carl-Heinrich. Otto never commander II Armeekorps and by the date on your citation, Otto was in the Führer-Reserve/retired.

Born: 27th Jan 1892 Died: 22nd Jul 1944 - KIA at Brest-Litovsk Highest rank reached: Generalleutnant Chef Gen.St stellv. X Armeekorps Kdr 8 Schtz.Brig 8 Pz.Division Kdr 11 Pz. Division Kdr 9 Pz. Division Führer 334 Infanterie Division Kdr 337 Infanterue Division Oberfeldkommandantur 399 Kommandant Brest -Litovsk RK - 8th April 1943 DKiG - 4th Feb 1943

It can have all the anti-radar stealth it wants but it won't stop it being spotted visually by patrol aircraft.

Major Hans Michaelis. Born: 10th September 1910 Died: 26th May 2000 Highest rank reached: Oberst Infanterie Rgt 37 Chef 11./Infanterie Rgt 184 Kdr II/Infanterie Rgt 184 Führer Grenadier Rgt 184 Kdr Jäger Rgt 52 (L) RK - 28th Sept 1943 DKiG - 28th Feb 1942 Image: Black Wound Badge citation

Oberstleutnant Deert Jacob Reeder. Born: 22nd August 1900 Died: 7th July 1944 near Minsk II/Infanterie Regiment 254 Kdr II/Grenadier Rgt 254 Kdr Grenadier Rgt 254 RK - 30th Nov 1943 DKiG - 19th Dec 1941 Ehrenblattspange - 25th May 1942 Image: Ost Medal citation

I think that the heads of the 3 services are just as much to blame as the politicians. The British Armed Forces are by far and away too top heavy in terms of the numbers of senior officers and yet to save money the military powers that be never suggest cutting the numbers of Admirals, Generals & Air Marschals to a more relaistic level for what the Britsh Armed Forces have become. They would rather see the numers of front line staff, ships and regiments cut before they even contemplate suggesting the unthinkable (to them.) I believe that the Government even suggested that a way to save some of the titles was to downsize from Regiment to Battalion (or reduce the manning levels of battalions) but the head of the Army refused. I don't know the numbers money wise but I think you could slash those senior officers by 50% and make a huge saving without affecting the running of the Armed Forces, by using senior Captains/Colonels etc to take up those roles.

Fritz Albrecht was indeed a commander of Pz.Art.Rgt GD. In April 1942 it was Jauer, followed by Oberst Reinke and Albrecht took over from him. I don't have many details for Reinke except a date of 1st December 1942 and it is possible he was transferred out on this date. I have seen a citation with Röckner's signature on it dated for the 2nd July 1944 and in the position of the Rgt Commander. It is possible that Röckner was just a Rgt-Führer rather then Kommandeur but as mentioned, I have yet to get that far in my research so can't confirm. And the same for Hauptmann Plange, on a citation dated for 17th July 1944 in the position of Nachr.Abt Kommandeur. The names & citations appear in either (or both in the case of names) Scott Pritchett's 3 GD volumes and Helmuth Spaeter's 3 Volume GD History. As for the other question, I mentioned that the Third Reich Document section was where such things were posted but if you meant actual different forums then the only ones I can think of are http://www.forum-der...ht.de/index.php and http://forum.axishistory.com/

Thanks for the attempt at the name. In my research into the GD officer database I am only up to the end of 1943/early 1944 so far (and it is far from complete) so as of this moment I don't know who held those positions in 1945. I know that by July 1944 the commander of the Pz.Art.Rgt GD was Major Röckner who was an Oberstleutnant by December 1944. Again, in July 1944 the commander of the Nachr.Abt was Hauptmann Plange. With regrads to the section for personel research etc then it is usually the Third Reich Documentation section. The only mention of the 1944 DAL with reference to Oberleutnante that I've been able to find is in the thread as the DAL 1.5.43. You could try contacting Glenn J as he is the owner of the DAL May 1944.

7) 13./Infanterie Rgt GD 1 (Pz.Gren.Rgt GD) April to at least Oct 1942

6) Ersatz Abt Schnelle Truppen Ersatz Brigade (mot.) Großdeutschland Nov 1942 - Seemingly a common signature and always seems to be associated with this unit but I have so far failed to identify it.