Solomon

4th picture Prussia Order of the black eagle grand cross set Lippe-Detmold Leopold-order collane of the ruling Prince Prussia Iron cross 1st class Lippe-Detmold cross for heroic deeds Hohenzollern house-order knight´s cross with swords Regarding the medalbar, I will post another (better) picture... 5th photo from December 1916 Prussia Johanniter-order ....and....uppps ?

3rd photo in uniform of the 55th regiment: Waldeck house-order 1.st class (neck-cross) Prussia Red Eagle order breast-star unknown breast-star medalbar (incl. already mentioned orders): Lippe-Detmold house-order 3rd class Lippe-Detmold Leopold order 1st type 2nd class Lippe-Detmold Leopold order owner´s cross Lippe-Detmold house-order golden cross Lippe-Detmold memorial medal 1897 Lippe-Detmold memorial medal 1905 Lippe-Detmold golden merit medal Lippe-Detmold combattant´s association cross 1907 ("Kriegervereinskreuz")

No, the painting is still in the castle...no idea, why the rest was sold. I only know, who was involved in the selling... Anyhow, let´s dive into Leopold IV.´s orders: 1st picture from 1897: He is wearing Lippe-Detmold house-order 1st class Prussia Centenar-medal 1897 Mecklenburg-Strelitz order of the Wendish crown breast-star Saxony Albrecht-order breast-star 2nd picture from 1905 (I will only list, what was not previously mentioned): Lippe-Detmold grand cross set of the ruling Prince (breast-star) Lippe-Detmold house-order 3rd class Lippe-Detmold memorial medal 1897 (Erinnerungsmedaille an den Einzug des Grafregenten Ernst 1897)

Uuuuuh, the perfect topic for me, as I have actually more than 120 different photos of Prince Leopold IV. in my collection....from 1899 until 1949. Let me look through all these pictures and see what´s missing. At least the Waldeck house-order 1st class is missing. I only have one picture, on which he is wearing it. Unfortunately I also don´t have the award-dates for the "foreign" orders, like Waldeck, Mecklenburg-Strelitz. And even more anoying...in the meantime all these breast stars and orders were sold by the actual Prince. 10 years ago, these orders were still in the Detmold castle. BR Roman

Here are some private pictures of him, as my great grandfather served on the SMS Danzig...

I have a postcard from Kneußl in my collection. He received from Lippe-Detmold´s side: House-order 3rd class (which he is wearing on the picture) as Major in the Koeniglich Bayrisches Leib-Infanterie Regiment on 3rd May 1906. Best regards Roman

I just want to add the twin to the shown mini-chain.... Conrad Trauthahn used to be "Gewerbeaufseher" (industry inspector) in Bielefeld.

That was rather easy, as the Leopoldorden 3rd class was not often awarded. I´m pretty sure it belongs to Semjon Lipliawsky, Dr.med Prof., Head of the Russian Institute in Berlin, born in Wiatka, Russia on 24th April 1874. He got the Leopoldorden 3rd class Lippe-Detmold on 27th December 1912. At that time he didn´t have any other award (or he forgot to state them on his receipt). By the way, very nice miniature chain....:-)

Does this picture count, too? :-) It´s Prince Leopold IV. of Lippe-Detmold, the picture was taken around 1930.

It looks like an inofficial award given by the regiment. The breast star is a Garde star. Gefreiter (private) Cohn served in the 3rd bataillon of the machine gun department of the 2nd Garde Reserve Regiment.

Well, for the Waldeck order it won´t be an easy job due to the low numbers of combatant-awards worn at the neck. For the Schaumburg-order I luckily had an original ribbon in my collection, as it is the same for Lippe-Detmold. I would be more happy to get the award document, as this one would be unique. The family is still checking boxes and cartons for it. Regards Roman

Just a small addition: According to the book about the orders of the principal Waldeck-Pyrmont, Hermann Dihle was the only person, who received the Waldeck house-order 2nd class at the combatant-ribbon (ribbon for "Militärpersonen") as a special honor!!! It´s really a pitty, that most likely the ribbons and the refering documents didn´t survive ?

Hi gents, before these nice little fellows will leave me again, I want to show it you at least. All shown orders and some the information were coming directly from the family. Part I Orders of Konsistorialrat and President der Domänenkammer Waldeck-Arolsen Hermann Dihle Dihle was born 25th May 1873 and died on 3rd November 1944. Since 1913 he was working for the principal Waldeck-Pyrmont and he retired in 1929. The following two orders were received by him: - Friedrich-Bathildis medal 1915 Dihle received it on 10th August 1916 - Waldeck house-order 2nd class with oakleave (Ehrenkreuz 2.Klasse) Dihle received it on 21st January 1918 (birthday of the ruling Prince), but there is one really interesting fact: Hermann Dihle received this order at the cobatant-ribbon as a special honor!!! The order itself is gold, quite unusual for such a late award date. Part II The 2nd estate is related to Hermann Dihle´s father in law. It´s the lawyer and 1st attorney Gottfried von Reden. Gottfried von Reden received the following orders: - Schaumburg-Lippe house order 2nd class (early versio with white underground of the rose), gold He awarded it on 5th March 1902. - Württemberg Order of the crown cross of the knights (Ehrenritter) According to the Almanach he awarded it before 1904, I don´t know the exact date. The pinback-cross is also gold and marked with FOEHR under the needle. Gottfried von Reden arwarded earlier as well the red eagle order 4th class, the Prussian crown-order 3rd class and the Prussian crown order 3rd class. He also got the Lippe house-order 3rd class, which he returned after receiving the 2nd class of it. The medalbar unfortunatly is most likely not existing any more. Part III These nice little fellows belong to August Dihle , the father of Hermann Dihle. August Dihle used to be high-school director and Geheimer Regierungsrat. He received - red eagle order 3rd class with the bow - house order of Hohenzollern, cross of the Rechtsritter (!) Beside these two orders he was wearing a Prussian order of the crown 2nd class at his neck. Unfortunately no ribbons survived, but there might be a little chance to find the award documents. On all family pictures I was allowed to check, none of the above mentioned guys was wearing his orders ? I hope you like this incomplete groups anyway... Regards Roman

Hehe, same for me, that´s why I gave this medalbar a new home among its Lippe-family. The most interesting part of the bar is the Lippe house-order. Officially this award (4th class with swords on the ring) could never been awarded, due to the construction of the statues it was impossible. Metze got this award, which was only produced five times, only, because the Prince ran at the end of October 1918 out of stock of the correct award (4th class Div. A with swords). Luckily I can proof this wired fact by some copies from the archives. Yes, I found somewhere online scans of some letters he was writing to his wife from the front. At least for a short time he must have been at the front.

Another small contribution from my side... It´s the medalbar of Friedrich Metze, director of the Artilleriewerkstatt Lippstadt.

I don´t want to dissappoint you...but for me it doesn´t look like a LKEK, as the cross, we are looking for has a similar or smaller size like the IC 1st class next to it. The LKEK is bigger than a standard IC 1st class (see the attached picture auf my Fritz Kleinegees group from bataillon "Rohr"). For me the cross much more looks like a Wilhelm Ernst Kriegskreuz (war merit cross) or something similar. The were quite a few pilots who got this cross. Regards Roman

He used to be Director of the Artillerie Werkstatt in Lippsatd (artillery factory). Is it 100 % sure, that the merit cross for home merit was only a civil award or was it also awarded for important war aid? Metze used to fight at the front at least in 1914, before he became director.

The medalbar of Friedrich Metze I like most....of course the ultra rare house order with swords at the ring (unofficial awarded, because the house order with swords was not on stock) ?

I guess you are refering to the marked irregularities...I´m not sure about a red flag to be honest. Of course I checked my two crosses (both are not nameless, one came directly from the family) and one of the two also doesn´t have polished edges between the cross-arms, but some irregularities on the surface. The front of Charles´cross is absolut identical to the Zimmermann-crosses I know and I own. To be 100 % sure, you two have it in your hands...

I can confirm...it´s an official awarded cross, not a post-war cross....congrats. And here are two more official awarded crossed from C.F. Zimmermann, Pforzheim and the ultra rare version in Silver gilden with the box (three times produced and awarded...).

And last but not least three different types of boxes for the Lippe Detmold Hausorden 2.Klasse mit Eichenlaub (house-order 2nd class with oakleaves)

Lippe Detmold Leopoldorden Silberne Verdienstmedaille (Leopoldorder silver merit medal) Preussen Staatspreismedaille für Landwirtschaft (Prussia Medal for merits in agriculture)

Lippe Detmold Leopoldorden Verdienstkreuz (Leopold-order merit cross) A really rare bird with only three awards...Lippe Detmold Hausorden 3.Klasse mit Schwertern am Ringe Lippe Detmold Rettungsmedaille 3.Modell (live saving medal 3rd type) Lippe Detmold Leopoldorden mit Krone (Leopoldorder with crown 1st type)...also a rare bird Lippe Detmold Leopoldorden Bronze Medaille mit Schwertern (never awarded!!!) And my personal highlight: Lippe-Detmold Hausorden 4.Klasse mit Schwertern am Ringe (4th class with swords at the ring)...only five times produced, never officially awarded Three different Lippe packets Kriegsehrenmedaille Kriegsverdienstkreuz Militärverdienstmedaille

Ooooh...now I have to flood the topic with Lippe-stuff, not shown yet..... Lippe Medaille zum Einzug des Grafregenten Ernst 1897 Lippe-Detmold Frauenverdienstmedaille Lippe-Detmold Goldenes Verdienstkreuz zum Hausorden Another later Goldenes Verdienstkreuz zum Hausorden (silver gilden) And another box for the Goldenes Verdienstkreuz Lippe-Detmold Cross for Heroic dees (Kriegsehrenkeuz für heldenmütige Tat) Lippe Detmold Goldene Verdienstmedaille (golden merit medal) Lippe Detmold Silberne Verdienstmedaille (silver merit medal) Lippe-Detmold Hausorden 2.Klasse mit Eichenlaub (house order 2nd class with oakleaves), late one from Zimmermann another 2nd class with oakleaves...from Godet Lippe Detmold Hausorden 3.Klasse (house-order 3rd class) Lippe Detmold Hausorden 4.Klasse (4th class) from Godet

Grafregent Ernst zur Lippe-Detmold in Rechtritter-uniform...quite seldom to see on pictures... And Prince Leopold IV. zur Lippe-Detmold, wearing the order....