hankmeister

Is linking allowed here? Hmm, dunno. Here's a WP I have, to a member of a Marine Flakabt. Probably not the units you're looking for, but maybe it'll help show what you what they looked like. http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/sho...ad.php?t=181420 best Hank

He's right...I guess I'll move into Civil War, or Indian artifacts, where there's no fakes. Maybe collect Luis Vuitton bags, or Chanel stuff, there's no fakes there either. I could smoke fine Cuban cigars, cuz I wouldn't have to worry about getting a fake one of those either. Wait! How about 1813 & 1870 Iron Crosses! Now there's a field where I don't have to worry about getting burned. Some people....

No info on the sellers, but let's hope your friend's lesson on "Know what you're buying" isn't going to be too expensive... best Hank

Just to add a tiny bit, he also worked in a couple of ship's restaurants, not just "regular" restaurants and bars. Hank

"WAS"? As in, not in your possession anymore? wow. Hank

My German isn't perfect, but here's a fairly close translation. It's pretty standard on these civil docs. Ich vollziehe diese Urkunde in der Erwartung dass der Ernannte getreu seinem Diensteide seine Amtspflichten gewissenhaft erf?llt und das Vertrauen rechtfertigt, das ihm durch diese Ernennung bewiesen wird. Zugleich sichere ich ihm meinen besonderen schutz zu. I issue this document with the expectation that the named loyally and conscientiously follows his oath of office, as conferred by this appointment. At the same time I promise my special protection to him.

Reeeeeeeeally nice grouping you've got there Chris. Any of the original medals with it? best Hank

Bill - great cross. But just to play the devils advocate, have you compared this to a "113"? I saw this for sale too, and the big split in the ring made me wonder. I don't have one, but I was just wondering if this might possibly be a damaged (on the ring only) 113... Best, Hank

Nice. Once you run out of room for your EKs, you can start storing them at my house! Hank

I'm not much into U-boat stuff, but this is an awesome group! Congratulations on it. Hank

Because people can be morons sometimes? Hank

This looks to me to be one of a ton of fakes I've seen on German eBay and miliweb lately. I'd stay well clear of it without iron-clad provenance or return policy. Hank

You need to get your money back. You will have a VERY hard time trading this for something else worth 2000 euros. Hank

Fat back seater? Hank

Hi Richard, Any chance of pictures? Hard to say based on this description. Depends on condition of documents, what style/size, what ship, rank of awardee, etc. I'd guess-timate somewhere around $100 as a low price if the docs are in just okay condition (and it's only these 2) and then go up from there. Pics are really necessary to be more precise. Hope that helps Hank

Very nice collection! And well displayed. Hank

Well! Looks like I can post. Here's the reverse of it... Hank [attachmentid=33445]

Lessee if I can attach pics of the one I have... Hank [attachmentid=33444]

Well, I tried google for Mudania, and came up with this: http://www.telecable.es/personales/submari...ith/nasmith.htm Not sure what it's about, as I don't read spanish, but looks to be a difficult voyage by a sub. So maybe it was some sort of navigation award, named after ...? Shot in the dark, but might lead in the right direction. Hank

The first photo is more likely "Albert Stein", not Herbert Klein. Compare the "A" in "aufgenommen". And I believe it says "Aufgenommen vom Quartierherr". Not sure what that is, sort of maybe a barracks boss? Second looks like "Meiner kleinen treuen Irmtraut", I believe that Irmtraut could be a womans name. Hope that helped a bit, Hank

It's definitely "Osterr.". You can compare r's and n's throughout the text. Hank

It looks to me like it was written at the same time...the U-boat abz. and EK 2 aren't in order either... Is there any other writing by the same hand in the wehrpass? Just by comparing to the other entries on that page, I get "..auia" as the last 4 letters. To me it could be a "d" or a "ch" preceding it. Might start with "M" but I'm not convinced of that. Very interesting! Hank

Hmmm, looks like I was just a little bit off! Hank

Assuming they are in good shape, around $2000 I would imagine. Possibly more, as KM docs always seem to be 3rd to SS and FJ stuff in price...