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    Destruction

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    1. A big big thanx, Dave! Kaiser it is, I made a mistake. Thank you again!
    2. Hi Gents, Can anyone help me to understand what is written here? This came with a group on a person with surname Keiser but I'm not sure it belongs to the group. Many thanx in advance! Best! Serg
    3. Hi Gents, Is it possible to tell precisely when this order was made? Spanish production as I understand, marked with star for silver content and unreadable maker mark. Best! Serg
    4. P.S. Refreshed my memory by one of the sources and I stand corrected. Only the 1st cross (which you call cross for privates) was established in 2 classes (all gilded/silvered with gilded shields). The other two had just one class. All crosses were established 16.11.1919
    5. Hey Johan, As I said, it's a minefield, so I will not insist by now. As you see we're arguing using phrases like "I read this somewhere" and " I was told", because none has any serious arguments. To provide more info I need to buy and check some books on a subject, will get back if I'll have more info. But to be honest, all these enameled versions around look unused and brand new IMO. And the Merit cross (with wreath) which by your info was awarded only twice, do exist in 4 examples, at least I've seen 4 of them thus far. Best! Serg
    6. Hi Johan, These crosses are the minefield, to be honest. First of all, I've read about such types: 1. Cross for privates, 1st and 2nd class 2. Cross for officers, 1st and 2nd class 3. Cross for bravery/merit, also in two classes (with swords). Ciphers of ppl awarded differs from source to source, something like 20 ppl / 1st class of cross for privates and around 100 with the 2nd. As for officers/bravery crosses, only few of them were ever given. As far as I'm concerned, no one has ever shown neither 1st class of any type nor the 2nd class for bravery. What disturbs me when looking at your pictures...following the description these crosses were NOT enameled. 1st class badges for privates were gilded and the 2nd class badges were silvered with gilded shield, while other two types were gilded with silvered wreaths. Jani Tiainen once showed this cross which looks believable. Whoever made enameled specimens, when and why--I have no idea. One more from the internet. Translation: Bravery Cross of the Ingrian White Wall
    7. Hi Andreas, Out of curiosity, are there any examples when imperial shoulder boards were used like this? Might be an option. Another assumption--some unofficial/half official post war Bund/Verein/military organization ? Again, should it happen that anyone know/have examples of such a use? Best! Serg
    8. ...long time ago You're right, just another mysterious item in this hobby. I'm fine with that, may be we can solve it later. Thanx everyone for their help!
    9. Thank you all so much for your opinions! To make our life easier I made bigger scan. And honestly said, I tend to agree with Andreas, I see W not M. Look a the 3rd vertical bar, or how it's called, it's shorter in lower part comparing to other two, as it is shortened in all W letters in all gothic scripts I've ever seen. You can't find it in M letters.
    10. Hi Jannis, IMO a fantasy piece. You can find it on ebay for sale from famous crooks. Best! Serg
    11. Hi Stojan, Definitely a good one, the most often encountered type. These are met with Sedlatzek mark sometimes, yes. Best! Serg
    12. Hi Gents, Any chance to ID these shoulder boards and name the unit? Best! Serg
    13. Wow, Uwe, very nice example of Heinrich Timm made clasps! These are not so often met comparing to others, especially in such a configuration and quantities. Thanx for showing.
    14. Hi Gents, A quick question. I know the cross was established in 1938 and awarded to those who took part in Battle of Vilppula in 1918. I found 4 different types of this cross, can anyone tell me which of them were officially awarded and which are private purchase items? Or at least what was the earlier type of the cross from these four? Any info is welcome! 1. Type one, made of bronze. Often met on old medal bars, I believe I've seen an example of this type among Mannerheim medals. 2. Type 2, made of iron. 3. Type 3, bronze again 4. And a final one, made of iron.
    15. Yup. With seller stupid enough to agree about delivery abroad, but blocking any foreign bids. I'm still angry
    16. Look, first of all the plakette is dated 1919-1920 (!), while in document it's clearly stated: december 1919. Deutsche Schutzdivision was formed in January 1919 in Zossen from 31. Infanterie-Division and already in June 19 became Reichswehr-Brigade 25. Exactly as in document (31.Division/Schutzdivision/Reichswehr-Brigade 25), and nothing to do with Landesschützenkorps which mentioned on plakette ( used to form Reichswehr-Brigade 4 ). I can not exclude that plakette was awarded to members of Deutsche Schutzdivision, but I really doubt this document belongs to it. What do you think? One more thing. For example, Dr. Klietmann in his article calls Erinnerungszeichen der Deutschen Legion as "plakette" as well. May I ask our German friends here if this word can be used for badges ?
    17. Ehhh Brian, what I'm trying to tell is that this badge is OLD. It's absolutely impossible that is was made 10-20 years ago, ask any 3rd Reich collectors how much time needed for zinc to dissolve silvering like this. Can you show me more badges like this on sale? Made of zinc and with very same details? Also, zinc is the last material I'd use for any kind of copies. It's very brittle and has very narrow temperature range for die-struck. Germans used it for production just because it was cheap and available. If this badge is real, in this version it definitely was not worn as collar. It should be a commemorative badge and worn as such on a breast. And... it's Freikorps and has no connection with how long you're collecting, sorry. There are lots of undiscovered things in this area, I think you will agree. Did you ever seen Kreuzberg cross f.e, before it appeared last year? Even VerKuilen Ager never seen it as he told me. So yes, let's wait for some additional facts/pictures/groups to make it evident or unreal, but thus far it has a good chances IMO. After studying this in deep, looks like I can tell which badge this document represents
    18. Hey Brian, Can you explain why do you think it's fake? From production point of view? I mean, the badge is die stamped from zinc, this means it was produced in quantities. If it's fake, where are all other badges? We do not see them on sale , why? Also, can you show any zinc based fake with finish faded like this? If you will put it into aggressive environment to make it quick, you will get it corroded. Finish like this can only be made by aging when zinc is "eating" the finish. Eric, I do not want to make fakers life easier, will check measurements and contact you via PM.
    19. Well, zinc it is, with faded silver finish, as I supposed. I'm not much into production but as far as I'm concerned it's impossible to made cast zinc counterpart badge, isn't it? Also this faded finish, eaten by base metal, as we see on WW2 items... So I believe this badge is original, probably produced/ordered at the same run when they did these plakette. No idea if document belongs to badge or plakette though, as I said previously.
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